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- Proposed Lojban Machine Grammar Baseline Changes --67 Enclosures - cmavo change list, Lojban Grammar in E-BNF form441 KB (72,114 words) - 00:44, 18 August 2020
- As for eu, there is nothing like it in any accent of English (the We shouldn't base Lojban phonology on what some dialect of English has. I have1.9 MB (296,157 words) - 12:45, 26 January 2015
- ...ncluding each individual word of the vocabulary. The Lojban vocabulary and grammar and all language definition materials, by contrast, are public domain. Anyo ...roposed for the dictionary rebaselining, and the revised E-BNF form of the grammar. Articles detail the rationale behind several of the changes, with a focus565 KB (90,076 words) - 03:40, 22 August 2020
- Lojban Grammar Baselined ...use we didn't have enough money to pay for it. This issue includes the new grammar baseline and the cmavo list as separate enclosures to an over-50 page issue265 KB (44,779 words) - 00:42, 18 August 2020
- In English, for us little people? > In English, for us little people?4.12 MB (665,740 words) - 16:32, 2 March 2020
- In English, for us little people? > In English, for us little people?2.07 MB (380,774 words) - 07:40, 7 March 2020
- ...ting of an overview of the language's grammar, a diagrammed summary of its grammar basics, and a discussion of linguistic issues relevant to Lojban. It may be **[[#ch2|Chapter 2. Overview of Lojban Grammar]] was originally written by Bob LeChevalier in 1989, and updated in 1990 (i450 KB (65,465 words) - 09:45, 12 March 2016
- ...r our acknowledgement "You're welcome!", and their possible meanings to an English novice, and you will better understand the problem.) The approach to be use ...list of words for us that either seemed to overlap, or which had confusing English definitions that had made them difficult to categorize correctly. It took m262 KB (45,389 words) - 13:42, 23 May 2014
- ...ncluding each individual word of the vocabulary. The Lojban vocabulary and grammar and all language definition materials, by contrast, are public domain. Anyo ...ted, revised, and corrected from the original. Included are discussions of grammar points, some more on Lojban and linguistics, and a LOT of Lojban text. I ha336 KB (55,342 words) - 10:07, 18 August 2020
- ...ncluding each individual word of the vocabulary. The Lojban vocabulary and grammar and all language definition materials, by contrast, are public domain. Anyo ...issue to kick off the project. Not all of the writings are translated into English.462 KB (78,745 words) - 18:34, 20 August 2020
- ...occurs in the middle of all two-syllable vowel pairs - it is pronounced by English speakers as an 'h', though it is formally defined as the 'rough breathing' *Status of Public Domain Loglan (Lojban): Primitive Remaking, Grammar, LWs, MEX, LogFlash, Dictionary, Textbook and Teaching Aids175 KB (29,145 words) - 14:59, 23 March 2014
- ...ncluding each individual word of the vocabulary. The Lojban vocabulary and grammar and all language definition materials, by contrast, are public domain. Anyo ...ures, and a major revision/improvement of the Diagrammed Summary of Lojban Grammar Forms, which is becoming the mainstay of our introductory materials. Some o289 KB (46,480 words) - 05:22, 19 August 2020
- status of English in the world today is an interesting subject, and one we could ever been a colony (at least officially...), in which English was used almost as177 KB (29,087 words) - 11:51, 26 September 2014
- *Institute News: LogNet, MacTeach, Word makers Council, Grammar, NB3 and NB4, L1 Update, Paid Workers LogNet, MacTeach, Word makers Council, Grammar, NB3 and NB4, L1 Update, Paid Workers243 KB (42,050 words) - 13:59, 17 December 2014
- ...examples primarily because of time, and the lack of a comparable system in English. The two papers are bound separately from the rest of the issue; many 'leve ...uage and declaring a conditional or unconditional baseline (freeze) on the grammar.162 KB (27,612 words) - 03:21, 14 August 2020
- ...o me. At any rate, it's too narrow: Whorf was concerned with Hopi versus English way of thinking about time in that particular article, but the thesis in ge ...ge words for snow) and (~1 English word for snow) ==> (Inuit language and English users think about snow differently) might not be due to S/W and probably mi175 KB (28,521 words) - 11:27, 28 July 2014
- ...and Development - Grammar, Parser Status, pc to Visit DC, Transformational Grammar --6 Grammar, Some Proposed Logos245 KB (40,437 words) - 09:21, 11 June 2023
- '''Lojban Grammar Completed''' ...are used to free us from all the misleading connotations of their closest English equivalents. Thus, the glossary probably should be the first thing a newcom117 KB (20,860 words) - 01:49, 15 November 2014
- I apologize, but please either use English or provide a translation. Several of us are not anywhere near fluent in loj yes, of course, it’s English we’re gonna conduct the meeting in, right?521 KB (87,367 words) - 21:48, 22 November 2022
- ...eference-grammar/chap3.html 3], and [http://www.lojban.org/files/reference-grammar/chap4.html 4]. ...o the [http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar.html Reference Grammar (Draft)]64 KB (10,078 words) - 08:28, 30 June 2014
- *Lojban Status: Primitives (gismu), 'Little Words' (cmavo), Grammar, Textbook and Teaching Aids, MEX, Revised Schedule Introductory Grammar Pronunciation130 KB (20,488 words) - 14:51, 23 March 2014
- Mini Grammar Lessons: On du; On cu; On ke; On ti, ta, tu vs. vi, va, vu; On po'e, po, pe ...lth of possible forms of poetry that exist in the world's literature. Most English poetry is dominated by a single form, end-rhyme, in which the final word of168 KB (28,688 words) - 00:50, 13 August 2020
- the English in Lojban? Probably, since the English *states* my552 KB (90,146 words) - 09:40, 26 January 2015
- ...age available roughly since about 1979-80, when the original Loglan books (grammar-L1, and dictionary- L4/5) were sufficiently outdated to no longer serve as ...e are significant changes to each, and TL7/1 does not contain the complete grammar as did NB1, in the detail needed to actively work with the language. There125 KB (19,562 words) - 14:47, 23 March 2014
- ...s for draft text- book lessons, draft cmavo lists, and the draft machine grammar from the prices included in the last issue. We are going to a 2-page order ...oes make his whole effort rather worthless, since a language with a secret grammar is uninteresting and unusable. </br>The most serious criticism of JCB's sci136 KB (22,126 words) - 00:45, 12 August 2020
- Research and Development - Lojban Parser Status, Grammar Changes Proposed, serve the user as a resource book on the grammar, morphology, and usages of the109 KB (18,457 words) - 15:43, 19 July 2014
- ...inal form, it will contain an account of what usage thinks the meaning and grammar is of the relevent cmavo. It will not be based on the current baseline. I w ...ine, it is undeniably part of the language, rather like "ain't" in certain English dialects. "ka'enai" seems to have the same meaning as the crunchier "na'eka99 KB (16,218 words) - 06:41, 23 July 2014
- ...lish, these sounds (and ''/th/'', ''/zh/'', ''/sh/'') are pronounced as in English. lh a sound English doesn't have, made by pressing your tongue against the roof of your mouth,192 KB (30,893 words) - 08:45, 6 February 2015
- ...use the phrase “negating a sentence” to mean changing its truth value. An English sentence may always be negated by prefixing ...ve. This point will be made clear in particular cases as needed. The other English meanings are supported by different Lojban connective constructs.140 KB (20,484 words) - 08:17, 1 July 2014
- diminished, since some unmarked cases of opaque contexts remain (mainly where English subject speakers just need to overcome their sloppy English (etc.) prejudices and move over to what is632 KB (109,363 words) - 09:54, 26 January 2015
- grammar; it should just be a list of words for symbols that the speakers can handle Does SU go back to the last NIhO, LU, TUhE, or TO (as grammar.300 claims) or the beginning of input (as the Red Book claims)?473 KB (72,506 words) - 06:31, 15 January 2016
- "America" (that's English "America", not Spanish). It's the sound that Double vowels are rare. Two examples are ''ii'', which is pronounced like English "ye" (as in "Oh99 KB (16,833 words) - 09:59, 12 May 2017
- ...rd, being based on the English pronunciation of a word that's a fu'ivla in English. I had {boijmemai}, which should be {boljmemai}. ...s] on Mon 07 of July, 2008 13:56 GMT posts: 92</div><div>Any reason to use English style chapter enumeration (e.g., "-1-") rather than the Lojbanic {no'o mo'o284 KB (49,283 words) - 18:36, 30 April 2015
- ...ttempt to answer all questions of the form “How do I say such-and-such (an English tense) in Lojban?” Instead, it explores the Lojban tense system from the ...ubtleties based on what they mean rather than on how they act similarly to English tenses. This chapter concentrates on presenting an intuitive approach to th150 KB (21,989 words) - 06:50, 26 December 2017
- ...by Antoine Arnauld and Claude Lancelot. It proposes a notion of universal grammar shared by all languages and determined by the nature of rational thought as * English mathematician [[George Boole]] publishes ''The Laws of Thought'', a follow-95 KB (14,323 words) - 10:38, 9 June 2020
- ...o try to bring this subset of Lojban, and this trick of applying it to the English language, more fully into conscious & public awareness. ...an even Toki Pona, but because those words are used only to color & flavor English text, you can begin speaking with complete fluency from the first day, usin111 KB (19,522 words) - 18:01, 6 October 2014
- 08:01 <@tsani> (the second premise is evidenced in the formal grammar) If you just read the English, your mind is likely to autocorrect the scope, causing you to miss the prob151 KB (25,533 words) - 13:19, 10 October 2023
- [On a Standard English reading: "I don't know that the mud wasn't deep".] ...straight out of Li & Thompson's ''Mandarin Chinese: A Functional Reference Grammar'', and as such may be presumed sound. Randy LaPolla says that even subject90 KB (15,149 words) - 06:55, 23 July 2014
- ...individual word of the vocabulary. By contrast, the Lojban vocabulary and grammar and all language le'avla; (a few cmavo have the grammar of a brivla);73 KB (12,184 words) - 15:41, 19 July 2014
- ...Oooh!”, “Arrgh!”, “Ugh!”, and “Yecch!” in the title. These are part of the English language; people born to other languages use a different set; yet you won't ...indicators”, or just “attitudinals”. This rule seems awkward and clunky to English-speakers at first, but is an essential part of the Lojbanic way of doing th95 KB (15,305 words) - 08:18, 1 July 2014
- ...''v''', '''z''' for speakers of English, these sounds are pronounced as in English. == Lojban Grammar Facts ==169 KB (27,145 words) - 12:15, 18 December 2015
- <big>'''GRAMMAR NOTES'''</big> ...Choice/LojbanPod lessons|LojbanPod newbie lessons]]. They explain several grammar terms and concepts that are used in the lessons.77 KB (11,941 words) - 08:57, 30 June 2014
- In English language (and not only English) a noun is a word such as 'car', 'love', or 'Jimm' which is used to refer t This leads us to the Lojban Grammar, where words such as "key", "love" are relations between objects or phenome81 KB (13,506 words) - 09:46, 14 September 2017
- Diagrammed Summary of Lojban Grammar Forms with Example Sentences of the English associations of the corresponding words.80 KB (11,497 words) - 08:45, 30 June 2014
- ...mported|Latin|alphabet of Lojban}} Lojban uses the Latin alphabet, just as English does, right? Then why is there a need for a chapter like this? After all, e ...n down in English and have no standard spellings, but if you pronounce the English alphabet to yourself you will hear them: ay, bee, cee, dee ... . They are u64 KB (9,472 words) - 08:17, 1 July 2014
- {jvsv dirgli} interrupt+English {jvsv dragensku} correct+grammar+express76 KB (10,252 words) - 16:17, 23 March 2014
- ...r provide translations. If you need help with this because you don't speak English well, please ask and we will try and provide someone to help you. ...the 2018 Members Meeting. In some cases I don't have names listed in both English and lojban, and where this is so or I've made errors please tell me so I ca470 KB (80,057 words) - 21:46, 22 November 2022
- Yet another shade of grey --- the fact that "house" in English by modifier. In English and Lojban, the modifier usually precedes the151 KB (26,633 words) - 15:49, 1 July 2019
- “not”. For Lojban's unambiguous grammar, this means further that meanings of In natural languages, especially those of Indo-European grammar, we have sentences composed of two parts which are typically called65 KB (9,910 words) - 08:17, 1 July 2014
- the English keywords? > English keywords?497 KB (76,982 words) - 11:17, 26 January 2015
- ...e they consider an expression or construction to be a poor carry-over from English, which is either erroneous (grammatically or semantically), or conveys inap Malglico is a LojbanLanguage term, best translated as ****ing English, used to refer to uses of the LojbanLanguage which actually fit better with17 KB (2,974 words) - 13:47, 7 October 2014
- Research and Development - Grammar Changes Approved, Lojban Parser Status, cmavo Update in Progress, Place Structure Revisions, Summary of Open Grammar Issues85 KB (14,103 words) - 15:44, 19 July 2014
- ...es, because Lojban words don't change form depending on how they are used. English has only a small number of such changes compared to languages like Russian, ...; parts of speech – in contrast to the eight that are traditional in English. These three classes are called cmavo, brivla, and cmene. Each of these cla85 KB (13,710 words) - 06:46, 26 December 2017
- <div style="font-size:130%;">Help! I don't speak English!</div> === What is the difference between the Reference Grammar and the Complete Lojban Language? ===33 KB (5,296 words) - 10:36, 21 April 2024
- least in English (which in this case gives no > least in English (which in this case gives no455 KB (71,979 words) - 09:22, 27 January 2015
- There is an apocryphal story about an early (1952) automatic English/Russian translation project. A visiting senator asked to see the machine wo ...s the phrase small wooden hammer in another text, it can translate it into English as mallet. Even without the major breakthrough, the fact that Lojban is so68 KB (11,393 words) - 05:25, 19 August 2020
- Lojban Grammar Status 1988 Financial Report ...ions. A few of you prefer that we have more original Lojban as opposed to English translations. We'll try,42 KB (7,105 words) - 15:42, 19 July 2014
- G6. {ALINK(aname=>G6)}Mi a különbség a Reference Grammar és a Complete Lojban Language könyvek között?{ALINK} R6. {ALINK(aname=>R6)}What is available in languages other than English?{ALINK}39 KB (6,377 words) - 08:52, 30 June 2014
- ...have left the second word as a complex: loglytua, which would have made my grammar correct, but left us with a sentence rather than a title. Oh well. ...ord-lists in the proper form, and of course, we are awaiting the final GPA grammar.<br /><br />It is our intention, subject to jcb's approval, to supply free116 KB (18,033 words) - 14:45, 23 March 2014
- Lojban expression. You need not relate it to the English word > the English word155 KB (25,763 words) - 08:58, 26 January 2015
- ...e book. It also introduces most of the Lojban words used to discuss Lojban grammar. ...hese examples all describe relationships between John and Sam. However, in English, we use the noun “father” to describe a static relationship in {{lex|ex55 KB (8,273 words) - 07:11, 26 December 2017
- *Lojban grammar is based on the '''principles of logic'''. *Lojban has an '''unambiguous grammar'''.27 KB (4,114 words) - 13:18, 16 November 2015
- ...|banjubu'o]] / [[zantufa/fr|français]] / [[zantufa/ja|日本語]] / [[zantufa/en|English]]'''</div> * Zantufa is based on an unofficial but beautiful and simple grammar aiming at impartiality according to [[la guskant|Guskant]].19 KB (3,034 words) - 07:47, 6 November 2017
- > I think that unless the grammar is to impose an ontology, untinking translations from English — or carried282 KB (44,320 words) - 14:50, 26 January 2015
- ...rom the 4th Baseline Grammar proposal (i.e., the [[PEG|PEG]] grammar); PEG grammar errata should go to [[CLL PEG Errata|CLL PEG Errata]]. * Section 2.2 paragraph 2 says "o as in “dome”" but Australian/British English pronounces "dome" as per http://howjsay.com/index.php?word=dome&submit=Subm63 KB (9,621 words) - 18:24, 10 November 2018
- than". Otherwise it would be rather strange English (as written, > than". Otherwise it would be rather strange English (as written,165 KB (25,047 words) - 15:03, 26 January 2015
- Yes, that's a quirk of the grammar that should be fixed. There's no It's useful to have definitions of Lojban words in Lojban, not just in English.23 KB (3,730 words) - 09:33, 26 January 2015
- ...example into English (more-or-less) but the second one just won't go into English, or most European languages. If you're European and this strikes you as odd ...ce, European languages) and sometimes modify them to suit the spelling and grammar of the new language - Esperanto is a good example. Lojban falls half way be16 KB (2,735 words) - 12:59, 1 October 2017
- Lojban's predicate grammar was derived from that of formal logic. Lojban sentences are stated as sets ...an has a full set of emotional indicators, similar to such ejaculations in English as "Oh!", "Aha!", and "Wheee!", except that each has a specific meaning. Si29 KB (4,464 words) - 08:52, 30 June 2014
- impossible to translate into English: A new cmavo? In which selma'o? What grammar608 KB (95,583 words) - 09:14, 27 January 2015
- Lojban Parser Status, Lojban Grammar Status, Baseline Changes, Place pronunciation, vocabulary, and grammar for people who haven't yet started56 KB (9,352 words) - 15:42, 19 July 2014
- information without horrendously complex grammar, or expanding into multiple sentences as in the example. You can call this a grammar142 KB (23,550 words) - 09:34, 17 April 2015
- ...ish [[sentence (linguistics)|sentence]] "Are you happy?", the [[inversion (grammar)|inversion]] of the subject ''you'' and the verb ''are'' shows it to be a q ...mation, see [[Interrogative]], and for English specifically, {{p/s|English grammar|Questions}}.21 KB (3,100 words) - 10:26, 22 May 2014
- A '''finite verb''' is a form of a [[verb]] that has a [[subject (grammar)|subject]] (expressed or implied)<!--clarify this?--> and can function as t In many languages (including English), there can be just one finite verb at the root of each clause (unless the9 KB (1,435 words) - 10:24, 22 May 2014
- ...following one. In written English, a period serves this purpose; in spoken English, a tone contour (rising or falling) usually does the job, or sometimes a lo Note that although the first letter of an English sentence is capitalized, the cmavo72 KB (10,781 words) - 08:17, 1 July 2014
- ...l Meeting]] on August 11, 1996: "To baseline the contents of the Reference Grammar as of December 31, 1996, and all else as of June 30, 1997." ...condition for a baseline was redefined to require "Publishing a reference grammar, publishing a cmavo/gismu/rafsi list, a published lujvo list".18 KB (2,908 words) - 20:13, 16 May 2015
- ...obody” as a name, a name of somebody. However, the essential nature of the English word “nobody” is that it doesn't refer to somebody; or to put the matte ...ly than he. But the Messenger interprets the word “nobody” in the ordinary English way, and says (in {{lex|example-random-id-105i}})81 KB (12,064 words) - 15:05, 15 February 2015
- Although the grammar doesn't display them in this way, the speaker/listener/third party PRAs can ...ere you'd use those two PRAs as separate words. On the "Texts" page of the grammar, you can see this word used in the sentence "Ükhu attál", "I bid you gree26 KB (4,541 words) - 12:42, 13 August 2014
- In that case, it can easily be added to the grammar. It won't break an It could be done with less violence to the grammar (though more reliance14 KB (2,450 words) - 09:05, 26 January 2015
- My preferred grammar change would be as follows: > My preferred grammar change would be as follows:26 KB (4,434 words) - 09:44, 26 January 2015
- ...ot having any such categories as “noun”, “verb”, “adjective”, or “adverb”. English words belonging to any of these categories are translated by simple brivla82 KB (13,287 words) - 06:48, 26 December 2017
- ...ns” which allow us to replace nouns or noun phrases with shorter terms. An English with no pronouns might look something like this: ...d get mightily sick of talking. Furthermore, there are uses of pronouns in English which are independent of abbreviation. There is all the difference in the w56 KB (8,955 words) - 06:49, 26 December 2017
- || Language grammar || Language grammar84 KB (8,101 words) - 14:42, 16 October 2020
- ...thinking in Lojban, reading Lojban without a mental voice singing along an English translation. * Preferring Lojban constructions that are very different from English to ones that are ''semantically'' unambiguous.16 KB (2,539 words) - 15:06, 23 December 2014
- Where the shepherd feels a non-trivial issue in the semantics or grammar has not been brought up to date, they are free to include their own proposa Where the shepherd feels a non-trivial issue in the semantics or grammar has not been brought up to date, they are free to include their own proposa148 KB (25,095 words) - 06:10, 23 July 2014
- ...you mean that a threesome is part of the booklet, but that's not what the English says. (Also, I would prefer ''ckucma'' for booklet.) --xorxes ...this is ''grammar basics'', but I'm not sure how you get that from ''table grammar''. Maybe something like ''gerna sapcmu''. --[[Adam|Adam]]23 KB (3,918 words) - 08:19, 30 June 2014
- ...tion any more congenial if it's written in Lojban metalanguage rather than English metalanguage. Speaking as a hardliner, of course. ...would a dictionary of Lojban in Lojban suffer from the same problem of an English dictionary that words are defined cyclically? Would it theoretically, if no25 KB (4,260 words) - 12:31, 21 August 2016
- ...he relative clause bridi. The word “which” is used in English to introduce English relative clauses: other words that can be used are “who” and “that” ...on is represented in speech by a difference in tone of voice. In addition, English restrictive relative clauses can be introduced by “that” as well as “67 KB (9,902 words) - 06:49, 26 December 2017
- :Comment: ''transmitter'' in English can denote both '''lo''' '''benji''' and '''lo''' '''xe''' '''benji'''. ...ka va'o ce'u ma kau tarmi le nu bacru''' — ''Chinese language is far from English in the manner of pronunciation.''710 KB (115,361 words) - 08:13, 2 May 2018
- ...lth of possible forms of poetry that exist in the world's literature. Most English poetry is dominated by a single form, 'end-rhyme', in which the final word Of poetry's many forms, English end-rhyme does not seem especially suited for Lojban. This is but a guess,15 KB (2,376 words) - 08:27, 30 June 2014
- to say. In English, we have words called "pronouns" which allow us to replace nouns or noun phrases with shorter terms. An English with no33 KB (5,598 words) - 15:48, 1 July 2019
- ...le of a [[verb]] in the imperative mood is ''be'' in the [[English grammar|English]] sentence "Please be quiet". Imperatives of this type imply a [[grammatica ...e the imperative is ''be'' while the indicative is ''are''. (The present [[English subjunctive|subjunctive]] always has the same form as the imperative, altho16 KB (2,296 words) - 09:14, 30 June 2014
- Loglan 4/5 Loglan/English English/Loglan Dictionary, by James Cooke seek matches in the concept as expressed in English translation, since96 KB (9,747 words) - 15:01, 8 April 2015
- Language, by John Cowan and the accompanying baseline of the Lojban grammar. combination of lexicon and reference grammar would be frozen for a minimum39 KB (6,344 words) - 08:47, 2 October 2014
- ...jban Language'', by John Cowan and the accompanying baseline of the Lojban grammar. ...d lexicon would be baselined, and the combination of lexicon and reference grammar would be frozen for a minimum of 5 years while language usage grew. That c30 KB (4,879 words) - 17:11, 2 October 2015
- ...} is glossed “a goer” rather than “go” because “Go” at the beginning of an English sentence would suggest a command: “Go to Boston!”. {{lex|example-random ...d probably be avoided except when trying for a literal translation of some English (or other natural-language) sentence; the rules stated here are merely give74 KB (12,132 words) - 06:50, 26 December 2017
- {{vla|le}} is quite close in meaning to English “the”. It has particular implications, however, which “the” does no Note that English-speakers must state whether a reference to markets is to just one ( “the65 KB (10,572 words) - 06:49, 26 December 2017
- ...which is likely to be adopted, the BPFK has to review ''ALL'' the machine grammar rules. .... Some of these are difficult to formalize, as such, implementation of the grammar (such as the [[Official LLG Parser|official parser]] and [[la jbofi'e]] giv4 KB (723 words) - 16:27, 2 January 2016
- {{ind|general-imported|signs on numbers|grammar}} Grammatically, the signs are part of the number to which they are attache {{ind|general-imported|du|grammar of}} {{ind|general-imported|mathematical equality|expressing}}121 KB (16,824 words) - 11:24, 2 March 2015
- .gy. This zoi quote is quoting English text. ...d guard word for English as the letter combination is rare and it is a non-English phoneme. It may sound like "uh huh," however.13 KB (2,154 words) - 06:20, 14 June 2014