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{{jvs|spero}}, an unofficial gismu for '[[Esperanto|Esperanto]]' | {{jvs|spero}}, an [[experimental gismu|unofficial]] gismu for '[[Esperanto|Esperanto]]'. | ||
First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by [[ | First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by [[John Cowan]]: http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9012/msg00009.html, rejected at Logfest 91: http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00127.html. | ||
:According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of [[The Book|The Book]], fu'ivla ''spe'ato'' can be used instead. How do you like this? | *[[User:Cyril Slobin|kir]]: | ||
: | *:According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of [[The Book|The Book]], fu'ivla '''spe'ato''' can be used instead. How do you like this? | ||
: | **[[Jay Kominek|Jay]]: | ||
**:'''spe'anto''' is better, IMO. | |||
***[[User:Cyril Slobin| kir]]'': | |||
::Well, I'm in favour of ''[[ | |||
: | ***:But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla! | ||
****[[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]: | |||
:pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[ | ****:This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind '''bangrnesperanto'''. | ||
:The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. | ***Maybe '''banrsperanto'''? Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book. | ||
****???!!! How is it not canonical? Fine: "not the default strategy suggested." | |||
*[[.kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]: | |||
*:'''spero''' all the way! | |||
*[[User:tsali|tsali]]: | |||
*:Well, I'm in favour of '''[[pacnybau]]'''. | |||
*xod: | |||
*:Since I think we need to jettison all [[cultural gismu]] (except '''lojbo''') and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! | |||
**Read more [[The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|here]]. | |||
*[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]: | |||
*:pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[Boo to cultural gismu]]. | |||
*[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]: | |||
*:The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. | |||
Revision as of 10:31, 28 March 2014
spero, an unofficial gismu for 'Esperanto'.
First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by John Cowan: http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9012/msg00009.html, rejected at Logfest 91: http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00127.html.
- kir:
- According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of The Book, fu'ivla spe'ato can be used instead. How do you like this?
- But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla!
- nitcion:
- This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind bangrnesperanto.
- Maybe banrsperanto? Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book.
- ???!!! How is it not canonical? Fine: "not the default strategy suggested."
- .kreig.daniyl.:
- spero all the way!
- tsali:
- Well, I'm in favour of pacnybau.
- xod:
- Since I think we need to jettison all cultural gismu (except lojbo) and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception!
- Read more here.
- And Rosta:
- pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See Boo to cultural gismu.
- Plastic Raven:
- The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful.