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::This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind ''bangrnesperanto'' -- [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]] ''Maybe banrsperanto?'' Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book. ''???!!! How is it not canonical?'' Fine: "not the default strategy suggested." | ::This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind ''bangrnesperanto'' -- [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]] ''Maybe banrsperanto?'' Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book. ''???!!! How is it not canonical?'' Fine: "not the default strategy suggested." | ||
:::Spero all the way! - [[jbocre: .kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]] | :::Spero all the way! - [[jbocre: .kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]] | ||
::Well, I'm in favour of ''[[ | ::Well, I'm in favour of ''[[pacnybau|pacnybau]]''. --[[User:tsali|tsali]] | ||
:''Since I think we need to jettison all [[cultural gismu|cultural gismu]] (except "lojbo") and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! --xod'' | :''Since I think we need to jettison all [[cultural gismu|cultural gismu]] (except "lojbo") and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! --xod'' | ||
:'''All the ire aroused by this comment was moved [[jbocre: The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|here]].''' | :'''All the ire aroused by this comment was moved [[jbocre: The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|here]].''' | ||
:pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[Boo to cultural gismu|Boo to cultural gismu]]. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | :pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[Boo to cultural gismu|Boo to cultural gismu]]. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
:The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. - [[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]] | :The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. - [[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]] |
Revision as of 14:50, 23 March 2014
spero, an unofficial gismu for 'Esperanto' (see also http://arj.nvg.org/lojban/unofficial-gismu.html).
First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by John Cowan: [1] , rejected at Logfest 91: [2].
- According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of The Book, fu'ivla spe'ato can be used instead. How do you like this? -- kir
- spe'anto is better, IMO. --Jay
- But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla! -- kir
- This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind bangrnesperanto -- nitcion Maybe banrsperanto? Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book. ???!!! How is it not canonical? Fine: "not the default strategy suggested."
- Spero all the way! - .kreig.daniyl.
- Well, I'm in favour of pacnybau. --tsali
- spe'anto is better, IMO. --Jay
- Since I think we need to jettison all cultural gismu (except "lojbo") and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! --xod
- All the ire aroused by this comment was moved here.
- pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See Boo to cultural gismu. --And Rosta
- The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. - Plastic Raven