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** Why does ninsiski need to have siski's place structure? whats wrong with ''x1 explores volume/set x2 for thing x3''? | ** Why does ninsiski need to have siski's place structure? whats wrong with ''x1 explores volume/set x2 for thing x3''? | ||
***What's right with "x1 searches for previously undiscovered property x2 among x3" is that it's a lot easier to predict, given the place structures of ''cnino'' and ''sisku''. Yes, [[ | ***What's right with "x1 searches for previously undiscovered property x2 among x3" is that it's a lot easier to predict, given the place structures of ''cnino'' and ''sisku''. Yes, [[seljvajvo|seljvajvo]] are my hobby-horse, not yours; but ''ninsisku'' to me doesn't mean "explore"; it means "search for something new" (as in, search, Lojban style, as in, search for property to be matched [[x2]] by what you find within a set of candidates [[x3]].) If you don't agree, fine; I can't and won't compel you to use ''ninsisku'' the way I prefer. (I'm hoping you're blinded by its sheer reasonableness instead. :-) ) But remember, you might have to tell people you mean 'explore' instead of 'search, Lojban style, for something new', because the latter is a quite reasonable default assumption. (Oh, and exploration's primarily about travel anyway, I believe.) -- mi'e [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]] | ||
**** I'll be convinced quite a bit more by the construction of a lujvo which ''does'' mean exploration, rather than saying mine doesn't mean exploration. :) --[[ | **** I'll be convinced quite a bit more by the construction of a lujvo which ''does'' mean exploration, rather than saying mine doesn't mean exploration. :) --[[Jay Kominek|Jay]] | ||
**** Um, dude: ''ninsisli'u'': le ninsisli'u (noi se cnino zi'e noi sisku) cu litru le se litru (poi lu'i ke'a se sisku ku'o); le te litru; le se sisku. x1 explores area x2, using means x3, searching for x4. Whaddaya think? -- [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]. | **** Um, dude: ''ninsisli'u'': le ninsisli'u (noi se cnino zi'e noi sisku) cu litru le se litru (poi lu'i ke'a se sisku ku'o); le te litru; le se sisku. x1 explores area x2, using means x3, searching for x4. Whaddaya think? -- [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]. | ||
***** Er. Durh. Now I feel silly. Ok. That one is excellent. (Changed it above) | ***** Er. Durh. Now I feel silly. Ok. That one is excellent. (Changed it above) |
Latest revision as of 15:35, 23 March 2014
Inevitable lujvo war :-)
Re ninsiski (originally used) -> ninsisli'u:
- ninsisli'u. sisku x2 won't allow lo kensa.
- Why does ninsiski need to have siski's place structure? whats wrong with x1 explores volume/set x2 for thing x3?
- What's right with "x1 searches for previously undiscovered property x2 among x3" is that it's a lot easier to predict, given the place structures of cnino and sisku. Yes, seljvajvo are my hobby-horse, not yours; but ninsisku to me doesn't mean "explore"; it means "search for something new" (as in, search, Lojban style, as in, search for property to be matched x2 by what you find within a set of candidates x3.) If you don't agree, fine; I can't and won't compel you to use ninsisku the way I prefer. (I'm hoping you're blinded by its sheer reasonableness instead. :-) ) But remember, you might have to tell people you mean 'explore' instead of 'search, Lojban style, for something new', because the latter is a quite reasonable default assumption. (Oh, and exploration's primarily about travel anyway, I believe.) -- mi'e nitcion
- I'll be convinced quite a bit more by the construction of a lujvo which does mean exploration, rather than saying mine doesn't mean exploration. :) --Jay
- What's right with "x1 searches for previously undiscovered property x2 among x3" is that it's a lot easier to predict, given the place structures of cnino and sisku. Yes, seljvajvo are my hobby-horse, not yours; but ninsisku to me doesn't mean "explore"; it means "search for something new" (as in, search, Lojban style, as in, search for property to be matched x2 by what you find within a set of candidates x3.) If you don't agree, fine; I can't and won't compel you to use ninsisku the way I prefer. (I'm hoping you're blinded by its sheer reasonableness instead. :-) ) But remember, you might have to tell people you mean 'explore' instead of 'search, Lojban style, for something new', because the latter is a quite reasonable default assumption. (Oh, and exploration's primarily about travel anyway, I believe.) -- mi'e nitcion
- Um, dude: ninsisli'u: le ninsisli'u (noi se cnino zi'e noi sisku) cu litru le se litru (poi lu'i ke'a se sisku ku'o); le te litru; le se sisku. x1 explores area x2, using means x3, searching for x4. Whaddaya think? -- nitcion.
- Er. Durh. Now I feel silly. Ok. That one is excellent. (Changed it above)
- Um, dude: ninsisli'u: le ninsisli'u (noi se cnino zi'e noi sisku) cu litru le se litru (poi lu'i ke'a se sisku ku'o); le te litru; le se sisku. x1 explores area x2, using means x3, searching for x4. Whaddaya think? -- nitcion.