BPFK Community Work

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This page is for anyone in the Lojban community who wants to help

the BPFK with the initial language description task.

The Goal

The whole goal here is to replace the definitions with something

that (1) uses complete English sentences and (2) might be useful to

somone who has never seen them before (although please don't include

descriptions of things common to many words; do not define

"attitudinal", for example).

We'd also like to get the various piece of information about the

words seperated out for future use, and get some examples, but those

are somewhat secondary goals.

The Procedure

Here's what you do:

  • Log in to your account here; register if necessary (it's in the upper right)
  • Make sure your email here is valid; see he preferences page
  • Ignore anything else you've ever heard about BPFK procedures
  • Pick a section that isn't green on the BPFK Sections page. Pick a cmavo in that section that looks unfinished. Do the following:
    • Grab your CLL, or use one of the online versions. Figure out what the cmavo means. Write it down. See the templates below.
      • Do NOT describe its category in general; it is sufficient to say that something is "an attitudinal"; you do not need to talk about how attitudinals in general work at all.
      • Do describe how it is different from other members of its category.
    • Find (or, if you really can't find any, make) examples of usage of the cmavo; use the Corpora page for this.
    • Search the mailing list, or anything else that seems relevant, for debate about the nature of the cmavo or its category. Make notes of any you find, seperate from the body of the definition.

Dealing With Issues

At any stage along the way, if you see any problem (contradictions, arguments, confusions, whatever) about either the cmavo itself or the general category it belongs to, make sure they are noted down, either in the Issues section for the cmavo or the Issues section (make one if necessary) for the whole page.

If you get stuck or confused, please post to he BPFK group.

Tags

Each grammatical category should have unique descriptiors in Lojban

that can be used to refer to all cmavo of that type, for consistency

across various documents, in case we decide to go with something

like

[1]

Cross-References

Please put {...} around any cross-references to other Lojban words,

like {broda}. This will not get marked up, but it will save us a lot

of trouble later. Basically, put {...} anywhere you would want a

hyperlink to another entry to appear if this was an online

dictionary.

Section Colours

For the colors, Blue means "completed but not voted on"; you should

mark any section that appears finished blue. Green means "completed

and voted on"; please do not touch those!

Go For It!

When editing the wiki, DO NOT WORRY about making mistakes or anything like that. You are totally free to edit as you see fit. This very much includes fixing other people's mistakes. Edit as you see fit. Do not discuss the page on the page; if there's something that needs discussion, post to he BPFK group. If a page is locked, let he BPFK group know. We have people watching every edit; if there's a problem, we'll mail you.

But Be Careful About Concurrent Edits

We've had at least one case so far of one person entirely destroying

another person's cmavo definition changes. Therefore, please:

  • If the site says "someone else edited this since you started", or something like that, DO NOT SAVE. Copy the text somewhere else, cancel, RELOAD, and try again.
  • Make lots of small, quick changes.
  • RELOAD before you start editing.

Templates

A finished cmavo looks something like this:


cmavo: xxx (SELMAHO)

Proposed Definition

Fun-times! Used to express fun-ness.

Proposed Tag

Awesome attitudinal.

See Also

  • {XYY}
  • {XYZ}
  • {GISMU}

Proposed Keywords

  • whatever
  • shyeah-right!

Usage Examples

xxx mi klama
"Whatever! I'm going."

Notes

This cmavo is different from {XYY}, because {XYY} allows for the piano-eating duties to be split.

Issues

This cmavo is completely non-standard, but very common in actual usage. We could resolve this by allowing it, or not.

{BOX}

...

General Section Issues

All attitudinal modifiers are weird.

{BOX}

The raw markup for that is this:


~pp~


cmavo: xxx (SELMAHO)

Proposed Definition

Fun-times! Used to express fun-ness.

Proposed Tag

Awesome attitudinal.

See Also

  • {XYY}
  • {XYZ}
  • {GISMU}

Proposed Keywords

  • whatever
  • shyeah-right!

Usage Examples

xxx mi klama
"Whatever! I'm going."

Notes

This cmavo is different from {XYY}, because {XYY} allows for the piano-eating duties to be split.

Issues

This cmavo is completely non-standard, but very common

in actual usage. We could resolve this by allowing it, or not.

{BOX}

...

General Section Issues

All attitudinal modifiers are weird.