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An ever-being-updated list of suggestions for the next revision of CLL:
 
An ever-being-updated list of suggestions for the next revision of CLL:
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*The tengwar table should use actual tengwar in addition to their names, since we now have Unicode (CSUR) and good fonts.
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*4.7 In the procedure for making a non-Lojban word into a valid Stage 3 fu'ivla, double consonants are to be eliminated before the sounds are to be converted to their closest Lojban equivalents, but it is possible that consecutive consonants have different sounds (like in 'eccentric'). So these actions should swap places. The same goes for section 8, in the procedure for Lojbanizing a name.
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*Chapter 10 It would be nice if there was a template for compound tenses around the end of the chapter, like the template for compound cnima'o in chapter 13 section 8.
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** add charts from http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/glekitufa/tiddlydict/fricukt.html
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* 5.14 The three letter language abbreviations were probably used to save space, but now that we have actual tables we can safely write the full names of the languages.
  
 
* see what's left at [[CLL, aka Reference Grammar, Errata]]
 
* see what's left at [[CLL, aka Reference Grammar, Errata]]
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* change sumti tcita to sumtcita
 
* change sumti tcita to sumtcita
 
* rename CMENE to CMEVLA
 
* rename CMENE to CMEVLA
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* Section 6, restriction no. 2 already forbids 8 of the 12 consonant pairs that are forbidden by restriction no. 3; perhaps it's better to just explicitly forbid the pairs "cs", "jz", "sc" and "zj" like in the last restriction.
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*The Cyrillic letters given map to 'abcdefgijklmnoprstuvxyz'? That doesn't seem totally obvious.
 
* pr according to [[Existential import]], change mentions of "existential import" in CLL accordingly
 
* pr according to [[Existential import]], change mentions of "existential import" in CLL accordingly
 
* A lot of this terminology is used without being defined. We should formally define the terminology that is import to understanding the grammar and syntax of Lojban, preferably in a sidebar outside of the main text.
 
* A lot of this terminology is used without being defined. We should formally define the terminology that is import to understanding the grammar and syntax of Lojban, preferably in a sidebar outside of the main text.
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* [[The Dot Side]], [[the Case Against LA]], [[dotside or Not?]]
 
* [[The Dot Side]], [[the Case Against LA]], [[dotside or Not?]]
 
* add '''cu''' after all cmevla when '''CMEVLA brivla''' constructs arises otherwise
 
* add '''cu''' after all cmevla when '''CMEVLA brivla''' constructs arises otherwise
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* Section 5 It seems like the writers of the CLL originally did really just think of lujvo as being shortened forms of tanru who have been given an explicit meaning instead of the vague meaning that tanru have.

Revision as of 13:32, 27 June 2019

An ever-being-updated list of suggestions for the next revision of CLL:

  • The tengwar table should use actual tengwar in addition to their names, since we now have Unicode (CSUR) and good fonts.
  • 4.7 In the procedure for making a non-Lojban word into a valid Stage 3 fu'ivla, double consonants are to be eliminated before the sounds are to be converted to their closest Lojban equivalents, but it is possible that consecutive consonants have different sounds (like in 'eccentric'). So these actions should swap places. The same goes for section 8, in the procedure for Lojbanizing a name.
  • Chapter 10 It would be nice if there was a template for compound tenses around the end of the chapter, like the template for compound cnima'o in chapter 13 section 8.
  • 5.14 The three letter language abbreviations were probably used to save space, but now that we have actual tables we can safely write the full names of the languages.
  • see what's left at CLL, aka Reference Grammar, Errata
  • take parts from suggestions for CLL, second edition here and there
  • change sumti tcita to sumtcita
  • rename CMENE to CMEVLA
  • Section 6, restriction no. 2 already forbids 8 of the 12 consonant pairs that are forbidden by restriction no. 3; perhaps it's better to just explicitly forbid the pairs "cs", "jz", "sc" and "zj" like in the last restriction.
  • The Cyrillic letters given map to 'abcdefgijklmnoprstuvxyz'? That doesn't seem totally obvious.
  • pr according to Existential import, change mentions of "existential import" in CLL accordingly
  • A lot of this terminology is used without being defined. We should formally define the terminology that is import to understanding the grammar and syntax of Lojban, preferably in a sidebar outside of the main text.
    • superfective
  • The Dot Side, the Case Against LA, dotside or Not?
  • add cu after all cmevla when CMEVLA brivla constructs arises otherwise
  • Section 5 It seems like the writers of the CLL originally did really just think of lujvo as being shortened forms of tanru who have been given an explicit meaning instead of the vague meaning that tanru have.