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What Is Lojban (Tiki thread #4774)

Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book

arj · 2005-06-27 14:54 UTC · Tiki post #4775 (reply to #4774)

Typo or charset conversion issue: "Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norbäck".

What Is Lojban?, The Book

rlpowell · 2005-08-09 00:57 UTC · Tiki post #5260 (reply to #4774)

On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:54:22AM -0700, [email protected]

wrote: > Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book Typo or charset conversion issue: > > "Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norb??ck".

As you can see, that doesn't help me much. Can you fix it directly?

-Robin

-- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"

Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

What Is Lojban?, The Book

arj · 2005-08-09 01:01 UTC · Tiki post #5266 (reply to #4774)

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:54:22AM -0700, [email protected] > wrote: >> Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book Typo or charset conversion issue: >> >> "Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norb??ck". > > As you can see, that doesn't help me much. Can you fix it directly?

Sure, but you have to unlock it first.

-- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Confusion among -ate ~ -ant pairs is even more prominate, since both

are legitimant suffixes. --Adam Albright

What Is Lojban?, The Book

rlpowell · 2005-08-09 01:02 UTC · Tiki post #5267 (reply to #4774)

On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 08:48:00PM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen

wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:54:22AM -0700, [email protected] > >wrote: > >>Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book Typo or charset conversion issue: > >> > >>"Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norb??ck". > > > >As you can see, that doesn't help me much. Can you fix it > >directly? > > Sure, but you have to unlock it first.

Screw that; gave you break lock perms instead.  :-)

-Robin

fu'ivla?

LogicalDash · 2006-07-21 22:00 UTC · Tiki post #5877 (reply to #4774)

I'm reading through the PDF version of the book that I've printed out. It has a heading for fu'ivla, then a page or so later switches to calling them le'avla. A quick search of the wiki revealed that le'avla is apparently the newer and more preferred term, and should therefore be the only one used to describe loanwords in the pamphlet. I'd fix this myself, but for my lack of Acrobat; would someone who's properly equipped please do a find-and-replace, and re-upload?

What Is Lojban?, The Book

JohnCowan · 2006-07-21 22:10 UTC · Tiki post #5878 (reply to #4774)

LogicalDash scripsit:

> fu'ivla? > I'm reading through the PDF version of the book that I've printed > out. It has a heading for fu'ivla, then a page or so later switches to > calling them le'avla. A quick search of the wiki revealed that le'avla > is apparently the newer and more preferred term, and should therefore > be the only one used to describe loanwords in the pamphlet. I'd fix > this myself, but for my lack of Acrobat; would someone who's properly > equipped please do a find-and-replace, and re-upload?

Vice versa. Le'avla is the older and dispreferred term.

-- It was dreary and wearisome. Cold clammy winter still held way in this forsaken country. The only green was the scum of livid weed on the dark greasy surfaces of the sullen waters. Dead grasses and rotting reeds loomed up in the mists like ragged shadows of long-forgotten summers.

--"The Passage of the Marshes" http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book

LogicalDash · 2006-07-21 22:24 UTC · Tiki post #5879 (reply to #4774)

> Vice versa. Le'avla is the older and dispreferred term.

Uhh... yeah, I read this wrong. Thanks.

Anyway, could someone please fix it, or else direct me to some free software that will allow me to do it myself?

> > -- > It was dreary and wearisome. Cold clammy winter still held way in this > forsaken country. The only green was the scum of livid weed on the dark > greasy surfaces of the sullen waters. Dead grasses and rotting reeds loomed > up in the mists like ragged shadows of long-forgotten summers. > --"The Passage of the Marshes" http://www.ccil.org/~cowan > >

>

What Is Lojban?, The Book

rlpowell · 2006-07-21 22:40 UTC · Tiki post #5880 (reply to #4774)

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 03:24:30PM -0700, LogicalDash wrote:

> Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book > > Vice versa. Le'avla is the older and dispreferred term. > > Uhh... yeah, I read this wrong. Thanks. > > Anyway, could someone please fix it, or else direct me to some > free software that will allow me to do it myself?

The source is here:

http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/

Good luck; I asked him not to use DocBook.  :-(

-Robin

-- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"

Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book

LogicalDash · 2006-07-21 22:46 UTC · Tiki post #5881 (reply to #4774)

> The source is here:

> > http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/ > > Good luck; I asked him not to use DocBook.  :-( > > -Robin

That page seemed to contain the source for the Lojban for Beginners lessons, but not for the What is Lojban? pamphlet.

Why does the board keep removing line breaks in quoted text?

Re: Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book

LogicalDash · 2006-07-21 22:52 UTC · Tiki post #5882 (reply to #4774)

Never mind, I found the source.

What Is Lojban?, The Book

rlpowell · 2006-07-21 22:55 UTC · Tiki post #5883 (reply to #4774)

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 03:52:12PM -0700, LogicalDash wrote:

> Never mind, I found > the source.

Or http://lojban.org/publications/level0/lojban.level0.zip at the bottom of the page.

-Robin

-- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"

Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

*facepalm*

LogicalDash · 2006-07-22 18:23 UTC · Tiki post #5884 (reply to #4774)

Turns out that what I had was the PDF of just the grammar section of the book, made available on the Lojban for Beginners page. The problems with that pamphlet could be easily fixed by instead printing out the grammar section from the whole thing. Nevermind.