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A dog who invents dairy products

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PierreAbbat · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9236

climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable to

move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?

Pierre -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

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lukebergen · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9238 · reply to Tiki post #9236

ummmm, what?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote:

> climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable to > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? > > Pierre > -- > lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >

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HeliodoR · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9241 · reply to Tiki post #9236

Is the solution Lojban or English? Daniel

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Craig Daniel <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9242 · reply to Tiki post #9236

2009/12/4 Dániel Arató <[email protected]>:

> Is the solution Lojban or English?

I suspect this is rather like his question years ago of "how many locks contain a weasel" - it's an English question with an English answer, but you can't answer it without reference to Lojban.

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lukebergen · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9243 · reply to Tiki post #9236

In what way does the question/answer of "how many locks contain a

weasel"/"????" require referencing lojban? Or am I missing a pun or something?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Craig Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2009/12/4 Dániel Arató <[email protected]>: > > Is the solution Lojban or English? > > I suspect this is rather like his question years ago of "how many > locks contain a weasel" - it's an English question with an English > answer, but you can't answer it without reference to Lojban. > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >

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PierreAbbat · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9244 · reply to Tiki post #9236

On Friday 04 December 2009 14:15:11 Dániel Arató wrote:

> Is the solution Lojban or English?

The solution is two words in English (one of which is a lujvo) and one word (a lujvo) in Lojban.

Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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HeliodoR · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9245 · reply to Tiki post #9236

Luke, this is some kind of a puzzle. We've got to figure out how to

understand the given terms in such a way (probably in Lojban) that they become actually interconnected, so that the "cake" and "furniture" parts also acquire some actual, particular meaning. E.g. the expression "dairy products" seems unnecessarily specific and precise, so that would probably make a good starting point. No ideas yet, though.

Daniel

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Craig Daniel <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9246 · reply to Tiki post #9236

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Luke Bergen <[email protected]> wrote:

> In what way does the question/answer of "how many locks contain a > weasel"/"????" require referencing lojban? Or am I missing a pun or > something?

The gismu for "lock" is "stela."

Weasels belong to the genus Mustela.

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cmacis · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9247 · reply to Tiki post #9236

Hmm, try translating into lojban first:

How many locks contain a weasel?

xo stela cu vasru lo mustlei

Nope, no idea there.

And the new one: A dog who invents dairy products climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable to move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? lo gerku poi finti loi ladru cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu clani titnanba .i lo gerku cu ruble binxo gi'e na ka'e muvdu .i ma titnanba .ije ma nilce

Nope, still no idea.

mu'o mi'e cmacis

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Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9248 · reply to Tiki post #9236

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote:

> climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable to > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?

. . . . . . spoiler . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

ladyfingers/table?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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lukebergen · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9249 · reply to Tiki post #9236

> spoiler

....... I'm going to have to think about that for a while. I still don't get it.

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote: > > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable > to > > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? > > . > . > . > . > . > . > spoiler > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > > ladyfingers/table? > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >

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Steven Lytle <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 08:59 UTC · Tiki post #9251 · reply to Tiki post #9236

Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?

stevo

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote: > > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable > to > > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? > > . > . > . > . > . > . > spoiler > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > > ladyfingers/table? > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >

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Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9261 · reply to Tiki post #9236

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <[email protected]> wrote:

> Even if you're right, how does that answer the question?

Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were ladyfingers and the furniture was a table.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

> stevo > > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote: >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable >> > to >> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? >> >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> spoiler >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> >> ladyfingers/table? >> >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >> you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >> > >

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cmacis · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9263 · reply to Tiki post #9236

I think he meant, why is that the answer? I'd like to know this as well.

cmacis

On 05/12/2009, Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <[email protected]> wrote: > > Even if you're right, how does that answer the question? > > > Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and > what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were > ladyfingers and the furniture was a table. > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > stevo > > > > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and > unable > >> > to > >> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? > >> > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> spoiler > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> > >> ladyfingers/table? > >> > >> > >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > [email protected] > >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or > if > >> you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. > >> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >

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Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9264 · reply to Tiki post #9236

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:39 PM, james riley <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think he meant, why is that the answer? I'd like to know this as well.

Think rafsi.

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> cmacis > > On 05/12/2009, Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Even if you're right, how does that answer the question? >> >> >> Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and >> what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were >> ladyfingers and the furniture was a table. >> >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> > stevo >> > >> > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and >> >> > unable >> >> > to >> >> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? >> >> >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> spoiler >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> . >> >> >> >> ladyfingers/table? >> >> >> >> >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >> >> [email protected] >> >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or >> >> if >> >> you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >> you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >> > >

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adamgarrigus · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9265 · reply to Tiki post #9236

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote: > > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and unable > to > > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? > > . > . > . > . > . > . > spoiler > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > > ladyfingers/table? >

I think I can explain xorxes's answer. . . . . . . spoiler . . . . . . . . . . . . . . le *ladyfinger*ku cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu je clani titnanba .i *ta ble*bi'o gi'e nai kakne lo nu muvdu

mu'o mi'e komfn

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Steven Lytle <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9266 · reply to Tiki post #9236

cmacis is right. I asked the wrong question. I'll try again. How does the

introductory information lead to your answer?

stevo

2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]>

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Steven Lytle <[email protected]> wrote: > > Even if you're right, how does that answer the question? > > Not sure what you mean. The question was "What were the cakes, and > what was the furniture?" and my answer is that the cakes were > ladyfingers and the furniture was a table. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > stevo > > > > 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and > unable > >> > to > >> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? > >> > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> spoiler > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> > >> ladyfingers/table? > >> > >> > >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > [email protected] > >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or > if > >> you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. > >> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [email protected] for help. >

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Steven Lytle <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9267 · reply to Tiki post #9236

Okay. I see it now.

stevo

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM, komfo,amonan <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2009/12/4 Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> > >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Pierre Abbat <[email protected]> wrote: >> > climbed on furniture and ate small long cakes. He became weak and >> unable to >> > move. What were the cakes, and what was the furniture? >> >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> spoiler >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> >> ladyfingers/table? >> > > I think I can explain xorxes's answer. > . > . > . > . > . > . > spoiler > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > le *ladyfinger*ku cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu je clani titnanba > .i *ta ble*bi'o gi'e nai kakne lo nu muvdu > > mu'o mi'e komfn >

>

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Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9270 · reply to Tiki post #9236

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:01 AM, komfo,amonan <[email protected]> wrote:

> > I think I can explain xorxes's answer. > . > . > . > . > . > . > spoiler > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > le ladyfingerku cu cpare lo nilce gi'e citka lo cmalu je clani titnanba > .i ta blebi'o gi'e nai kakne lo nu muvdu

I got "ladyfinger" very quickly from "dog who invents dairy products", but I wasn't too sure about "table". I had "ble", but I didn't know what the "unable to move" in the question was for. I tried "rinju"/"ri'u" but that didn't give anything useful in English. Then I noticed that the question asked for "cakes", not just "cake", so it was probably going to be "ladyfingers". That finaly suggested "ladyfingerstable", and the "sta" somehow justified the "unable to move".

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HeliodoR · 2009-12-07 09:00 UTC · Tiki post #9271 · reply to Tiki post #9236

That was remarkably cool. :)