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The Case Against LA (Tiki thread #6073)

The Case Against LA

Anonymous · 2006-11-09 20:33 UTC · Tiki post #6074 (reply to #6073)

Very well argued.

I only wanted to comment on something not directly related to the proposal:

> (Now, this also leads one to consider the possibility of not requiring > la before the name in the first place, since it isn't required to detect > the start of the name anymore. Such a proposal would be worth > considering, but it does raise some other issues, and it's not what > we're talking about now.)

I would oppose that, because I think CMEVLA should be merged with BRIVLA, not with KOhA or such. Doing the merge with BRIVLA would bring many benefits, like the possibility of talking about {la .atlantik. braxamsi} or {la .kongos. rirxe} which is one of the difficulties currently found with names for the Lojban Wikipedia articles.

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The Case Against LA

clsn · 2006-11-10 02:33 UTC · Tiki post #6075 (reply to #6073)

Jorge Llambas wrote:

> Very well argued. Thank you. > I only wanted to comment on something not directly related to the > proposal: > >> (Now, this also leads one to consider the possibility of not requiring >> la before the name in the first place, since it isn't required to detect >> the start of the name anymore. Such a proposal would be worth >> considering, but it does raise some other issues, and it's not what >> we're talking about now.) > > I would oppose that, because I think CMEVLA should be merged > with BRIVLA, not with KOhA or such. Doing the merge with BRIVLA > would bring many benefits, like the possibility of talking about > {la .atlantik. braxamsi} or {la .kongos. rirxe} which is one of the > difficulties currently found with names for the Lojban Wikipedia > articles. I don't think it's such a good idea either. Maybe if we had started out that way all along, or if we didn't have multiword cmene. But it's something that comes up.

I probably don't agree with your CMEVLA/BRIVLA merge either, very possibly out of knee-jerk reaction to its seeming radicalness. OTOH, I have been thinking of (and need to propose) a much-needed new cmavo in LAhE that converts a sumti to a name. It would help in handling all kinds of difficulties we're currently having with certain odd name-forms (examples aren't occurring to me ATM, but I had a bunch).

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