Talk:BPFK Section: Text Structure Discursives
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BPFK Section: Text Structure Discursives (Tiki thread #6218)
BPFK Section: Text Structure Discursives
arj · 2007-06-10 19:28 UTC · Tiki post #6219 (reply to #6218)
I see "pau (nai)" and "bi'u (nai)" both in this section and in BPFK Section: Discursives. There may be more.
We have top come up with some sensible partitioning before voting.
-- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/
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Anonymous · 2007-06-10 19:44 UTC · Tiki post #6220 (reply to #6218)
> Something has gone wrong with the partitioning of cmavo into BPFK sections. > > I see "pau (nai)" and "bi'u (nai)" both in this section and in BPFK > Section: Discursives. There may be more.
I noticed only those two too.
> We have top come up with some sensible partitioning before voting.
In the cmavo lists they appear as UI3a, so in theory they would belong here, but since your section comes first for voting we might leave them there.
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Anonymous · 2007-06-10 20:14 UTC · Tiki post #6221 (reply to #6218)
I have now removed them from this section.
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arj · 2007-06-10 21:18 UTC · Tiki post #6222 (reply to #6218)
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Anonymous · 2007-06-11 16:02 UTC · Tiki post #6225 (reply to #6218)
> Since you have "Proposed Definition" as the headline, do you > intend to not write keywords for these cmavo?
I had no intentions one way or the other, actually. :) Now I have added them.
What are the keywords for anyway? They should obviously not be part of a Lojban->English dictionary. They can be helpful in the production of an English->Lojban one, but they can't be automatically turned into one.
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arj · 2007-06-11 19:54 UTC · Tiki post #6226 (reply to #6218)
> On 6/10/07, Arnt Richard Johansen <[email protected]> wrote: > >Since you have "Proposed Definition" as the headline, do you > >intend to not write keywords for these cmavo? > > I had no intentions one way or the other, actually. :) > Now I have added them. > > What are the keywords for anyway? They should obviously not be > part of a Lojban->English dictionary. > They can be helpful in the > production of an English->Lojban one, but they can't be automatically > turned into one.
Why not?
-- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/
Dwi'n gallu llefaru pob llinell heb atal, oherwydd does dim tafod gyda fi.BPFK Section: Text Structure Discursives
Anonymous · 2007-06-11 20:20 UTC · Tiki post #6227 (reply to #6218)
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:07:18PM -0300, Jorge Llambas wrote: > > > > They can be helpful in the > > production of an English->Lojban one, but they can't be automatically > > turned into one. > > Why not?
Because we wouldn't (at least I wouldn't) want an entry in an English->Lojban dictionary for "indirect question", for example.
Under the headword "what", I would expect to find both "ma" and "ma kau", with suitable explanations (as well as "ki'a", "ke'o", etc.)
Or perhaps I shouldn't have "indirect question" as the keyword for "kau", but there doesn't seem to be anything in English that will serve as a _translation_ of "kau". I can only give a description.
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