Talk:BPFK Section: Numeric Tense
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BPFK Section: Numeric Tense (Tiki thread #1865)
Re: BPFK Section: Numeric Tense
pycyn · 2004-08-06 21:26 UTC · Tiki post #1866 (reply to #1865)
BPFK Section: Numeric Tense
xorxes · 2004-08-06 21:56 UTC · Tiki post #1871 (reply to #1865)
> with intervals (as per definition) but rather count occasions. No instances > of {re'u} have turned up in my check (incomplete files).
I proposed:
number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number
In other words, they tag an interval when the main event is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the numberth time in the case of re'u.
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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pycyn · 2004-08-07 03:06 UTC · Tiki post #1889 (reply to #1865)
Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote:I proposed:
number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number
In other words, they tag an interval when the main event is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the
numberth time in the case of re'u.BPFK Section: Numeric Tense
xorxes · 2004-08-07 03:06 UTC · Tiki post #1895 (reply to #1865)
> Where? -- not in the wiki page when I read it.
No, it was somewhere else, on irc I think.
> This may be useful, but the > connection with the tense use of {roi} and {re'u} is tenuous.
It's the same thing: n-roi indicates that something happens n times, n-re'u indicates that it happens for the n-th time (i.e. we are talking of the n-th repetition.)
> Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote:I proposed: > > number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number > number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number > > In other words, they tag an interval when the main event > is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the > numberth time in the case of re'u. >
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rab.spir · 2004-08-07 06:47 UTC · Tiki post #1901 (reply to #1865)
> Re: BPFK Section: Numeric Tense > What do {roi} and {re'u} mean? The cases of {roi} seem to have nothing to do with intervals (as per definition) but rather count occasions. No instances of {re'u} have turned up in my check (incmavo complete files).
In my corpus, {za'ure'u} is the 19th most common cmavo compound. (It means "again".)
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pycyn · 2004-08-07 16:58 UTC · Tiki post #1904 (reply to #1865)
Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote: pc: > Where? -- not in the wiki page when I read it.
No, it was somewhere else, on irc I think.
> This may be useful, but the > connection with the tense use of {roi} and {re'u} is tenuous.
It's the same thing: n-roi indicates that something happens n times, n-re'u indicates that it happens for the n-th time (i.e. we are talking of the n-th repetition.)
> Jorge Llambías wrote:I proposed: > > number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number > number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number > > In other words, they tag an interval when the main event > is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the > numberth time in the case of re'u. >
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rlpowell · 2004-08-10 23:35 UTC · Tiki post #1968 (reply to #1865)
> On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 02:26:32PM -0700, [email protected] > wrote: > > Re: BPFK Section: Numeric Tense What do {roi} and {re'u} mean? The > > cases of {roi} seem to have nothing to do with intervals (as per > > definition) but rather count occasions. No instances of {re'u} have > > turned up in my check (incmavo complete files). > > In my corpus, {za'ure'u} is the 19th most common cmavo compound. (It > means "again".)
Well, that's what we *want* it to mean.
-RobinBPFK Section: Numeric Tense
Anonymous · 2005-01-11 23:07 UTC · Tiki post #3526 (reply to #1865)
BPFK Section: Numeric Tense
pycyn · 2005-01-11 23:07 UTC · Tiki post #3527 (reply to #1865)
Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote:I proposed:
number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number
In other words, they tag an interval when the main event is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the
numberth time in the case of re'u.BPFK Section: Numeric Tense
xorxes · 2005-01-11 23:07 UTC · Tiki post #3528 (reply to #1865)
> Where? -- not in the wiki page when I read it.
No, it was somewhere else, on irc I think.
> This may be useful, but the > connection with the tense use of {roi} and {re'u} is tenuous.
It's the same thing: n-roi indicates that something happens n times, n-re'u indicates that it happens for the n-th time (i.e. we are talking of the n-th repetition.)
> Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote:I proposed: > > number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number > number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number > > In other words, they tag an interval when the main event > is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the > numberth time in the case of re'u. >
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pycyn · 2005-01-11 23:08 UTC · Tiki post #3529 (reply to #1865)
Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote: pc: > Where? -- not in the wiki page when I read it.
No, it was somewhere else, on irc I think.
> This may be useful, but the > connection with the tense use of {roi} and {re'u} is tenuous.
It's the same thing: n-roi indicates that something happens n times, n-re'u indicates that it happens for the n-th time (i.e. we are talking of the n-th repetition.)
> Jorge Llambías wrote:I proposed: > > number roi = fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number > number re'u = fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number > > In other words, they tag an interval when the main event > is repeated number times in the case of roi, or for the > numberth time in the case of re'u. >
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rlpowell · 2005-03-15 01:35 UTC · Tiki post #4387 (reply to #1865)
14.03 14:45 xorxes: {pimu roi} would be "half the time" as in "one out of every two times", then?
14.03 14:46 Broca: Half of one time, rather?
14.03 14:47 No.
14.03 14:47 If pi so'i roi means "much of the time", then "pi mu roi" must mean "one out of every two times".
14.03 14:47 (and vice versa)
14.03 14:48 The ma'oste claims the former.
14.03 14:48 Broca: Hmm, okay.
14.03 14:48 Whereas xorxes (and Broca, apparently) was assuming the latter.
14.03 14:48 I'm not sure it's terribly important, myself.
14.03 14:48 But I'd ilke to verify that whatever the BFPK settles on, we can get to both somehow.
