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BPFK Section: Non-logical Connectives (Tiki thread #3089)

BPFK Section: Non-logical Connectives

Anonymous · 2004-11-29 04:06 UTC · Tiki post #3090 (reply to #3089)

An example of {ku'a}:

la treid. ku'a la traian. midju la carlyt.

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rlpowell · 2004-11-29 08:24 UTC · Tiki post #3091 (reply to #3089)

On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 09:45:37PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:

> An example of {ku'a}: > la treid. ku'a la traian. midju la carlyt.

Huh?

-Robin

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xorxes · 2004-11-29 17:49 UTC · Tiki post #3092 (reply to #3089)

--- Pierre Abbat wrote:

> An example of {ku'a}: > la treid. ku'a la traian. midju la carlyt.

i la carlyt cu tcadu i je xu la treid e la traian cu klaji

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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pycyn · 2004-11-29 17:49 UTC · Tiki post #3093 (reply to #3089)

If so, this is the wrong kind of itersection;

streets ain't sets (well, I suppose you could ....).

--- Jorge Llambías <[email protected]> wrote:

> > --- Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > An example of {ku'a}: > > la treid. ku'a la traian. midju la carlyt. > > i la carlyt cu tcadu i je xu la treid e la > traian cu klaji > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page – Try > My Yahoo! > http://my.yahoo.com > >

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rlpowell · 2004-11-30 10:10 UTC · Tiki post #3094 (reply to #3089)

Indeed.

-Robin

On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 06:44:06AM -0800, John E Clifford wrote: > If so, this is the wrong kind of itersection; > streets ain't sets (well, I suppose you could > ...). > > --- Jorge Llamb?as <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > --- Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > > > An example of {ku'a}: > > > la treid. ku'a la traian. midju la carlyt. > > > > i la carlyt cu tcadu i je xu la treid e la > > traian cu klaji > >

> > mu'o mi'e xorxes

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Anonymous · 2004-11-30 10:10 UTC · Tiki post #3095 (reply to #3089)

On Monday 29 November 2004 09:44, John E Clifford wrote:

> If so, this is the wrong kind of itersection; > streets ain't sets (well, I suppose you could > ...).

The intersection of streets is much more common in daily parlance than the intersection of sets, so I think it should have a short word. A street can be regarded as the set of points along it, so the intersection of two streets is the set of points they have in common, which is what's normally meant, barring the complication of trying to figure out whether a point in the fillet is in the street. (I doubt that Trade and Tryon are filleted; filleting rights-of-way wasn't done on old maps.)

OT: I was in Raleigh with my mother in a clothing store. I asked some saleslady, "Pardon me for being from Charlotte, but where's the Tryon room?"

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li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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rlpowell · 2004-11-30 10:10 UTC · Tiki post #3096 (reply to #3089)

On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:35:19PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:

> On Monday 29 November 2004 09:44, John E Clifford wrote: > > If so, this is the wrong kind of itersection; streets ain't sets > > (well, I suppose you could ...). > > The intersection of streets is much more common in daily parlance > than the intersection of sets, so I think it should have a short > word.

It does, "kruca".

-Robin

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pycyn · 2004-11-30 21:30 UTC · Tiki post #3097 (reply to #3089)

Well, the intersection is strictly {le te kruca}

and that seems to be about the right length. On the other hand, it does seem strange to use cmavo space for all this set notation (Cartesian products are even rarer). I suppose the idea is that mathematics -- when someone gets around to doing it in Lojban -- will expect words to match the notation. I am not sure why, since all anatural languages seem to manage with it (this goes for all of MEX as well).

--- Robin Lee Powell <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:35:19PM -0500, > Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Monday 29 November 2004 09:44, John E > Clifford wrote: > > > If so, this is the wrong kind of > itersection; streets ain't sets > > > (well, I suppose you could ...). > > > > The intersection of streets is much more > common in daily parlance > > than the intersection of sets, so I think it > should have a short > > word. > > It does, "kruca". > > -Robin > >

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