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* [[jbocre: Football|Football]] (''nu boltipyjvi'') (I assume this is for what Americans would call soccer?) '''That's how I'd used it, yes -- [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]''' ''To keep it clear, let's use the terms'' soccer ''and'' american football ''since then there is no ambiguity over who gets their use of football chosen. - [[jbocre: .kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]''
(The idea for such a page came after a discussion about how to translate "bicycle" and a kind of provocation I made that motor vehicles have been preferred in the gismu collection, hence introducing a cultural bias in Lojban. -- [[jexOm.|jexOm.]])
* How about ''damskrima'' for fencing? ''Where does it come from?'' Spanish 'Esgrima', French 'Escrime', something similar in Italian. France is the birthplace of fencing as a sport, so I say go with the French.


** ''damskrima'' is not a valid word according to vlatai, though I'm not sure why. ''damrskrima'' sounds like it's a type of smoke. ''eskrima'' is a valid type-4. ''skrima'' is a slinku'i.
-=gismu=-
*** It should have been dambrskrima. I don't like type-4s and prefer tanru to any fu'ivla, and I thus propose ''dakfu xarnu bandu damba'' (dakfu xarnu is used to mean sword in all the lujvo involving swords on my jvoste; fencing in English is derived from the same Anglo-Saxon root word as defense). - mi'e. [[jbocre: .kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]


**** "knife stubborn"? Do you mean ''dakfu xarci''? '''Yes.'''
||bloti|lot|blo|lo'i|boat|x1 is a boat/ship/vessel (vehicle) for carrying x2, propelled by x3
* I have used ''kelcrkroke'' for croquet (Alice translation). Croquet is a sport, isn't it? :) ''More so than golf.''


* [[jbocre: Archery|Archery]]
carce| | | |cart|x1 is a cart/carriage/wagon (wheeled vehicle) for carrying x2, propelled by x3


* xarbe'e (''bye; the extra phantom team added to an odd number of teams that pair to play games'')
jakne| | | |rocket|x1 is a rocket (vehicle) propelled by jet expelling x2 carrying payload x3
 
karce| | | |car|x1 is a car/automobile/truck/van (a wheeled motor vehicle) for carrying x2, propelled by x3
 
marce| | |ma'e|vehicle|x1 is a vehicle/mode of transport carrying x2 in/on surface/medium x3, propelled by x4
 
matra| | | |motor|x1 is a motor/engine, driving/propelling/providing power to x2
 
trene|ren| |re'e|train|x1 is a train (vehicle) of cars/units x2 (mass) for rails/system/railroad x3, propelled by x4||
 
notes on trene: a railed vehicle or train of vehicles; also subway (tu'unre'e), metro, trolley, tramway (= lajre'e), roller coaster; monorail (= dadre'e); cable car, sky car, ski lift (= cildadre'e)
 
-=noralujv=-
 
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bevma'e|bevri+marce|loaded vehicle; e.g. truck|x1 = marce1 (vehicle) = bevri1 (carry), x2 = marce2 (cargo)  = bevri2 (carrier), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)
 
cibyselxi'u velprevelma'e|ci+se+xislu ve+prenu+ve+marce|three-wheeled bicycle
 
cucma'e|cutci+marce|skate, rollerskate, etc.|x1 = cutci1 (shoe) = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = cutci2 (shod)  = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)
 
nalmatryma'e|na'e+matra+marce|unmotorised vehicle|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)
 
velprevelma'e|ve+prenu+ve+marce|human-powered vehicle (e.g. bicycle, rickshaw)|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = prenu1 (person) = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)
 
velrelprevelma'e|ve+re+prenu+ve+marce|tandem bicycle|x1 = prenu1 (person) = marce4 (vehicle propulsion), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce1 (vehicle)
 
relxilma'e|re+xislu+marce|bicycle, motorbike|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)
 
sorprema'e|so'i+prenu+marce|mass transit vehicle|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x3 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)||

Latest revision as of 08:37, 30 June 2014

(The idea for such a page came after a discussion about how to translate "bicycle" and a kind of provocation I made that motor vehicles have been preferred in the gismu collection, hence introducing a cultural bias in Lojban. -- jexOm.)

-=gismu=-

||bloti|lot|blo|lo'i|boat|x1 is a boat/ship/vessel (vehicle) for carrying x2, propelled by x3

carce| | | |cart|x1 is a cart/carriage/wagon (wheeled vehicle) for carrying x2, propelled by x3

jakne| | | |rocket|x1 is a rocket (vehicle) propelled by jet expelling x2 carrying payload x3

karce| | | |car|x1 is a car/automobile/truck/van (a wheeled motor vehicle) for carrying x2, propelled by x3

marce| | |ma'e|vehicle|x1 is a vehicle/mode of transport carrying x2 in/on surface/medium x3, propelled by x4

matra| | | |motor|x1 is a motor/engine, driving/propelling/providing power to x2

trene|ren| |re'e|train|x1 is a train (vehicle) of cars/units x2 (mass) for rails/system/railroad x3, propelled by x4||

notes on trene: a railed vehicle or train of vehicles; also subway (tu'unre'e), metro, trolley, tramway (= lajre'e), roller coaster; monorail (= dadre'e); cable car, sky car, ski lift (= cildadre'e)

-=noralujv=-

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bevma'e|bevri+marce|loaded vehicle; e.g. truck|x1 = marce1 (vehicle) = bevri1 (carry), x2 = marce2 (cargo) = bevri2 (carrier), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)

cibyselxi'u velprevelma'e|ci+se+xislu ve+prenu+ve+marce|three-wheeled bicycle

cucma'e|cutci+marce|skate, rollerskate, etc.|x1 = cutci1 (shoe) = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = cutci2 (shod) = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)

nalmatryma'e|na'e+matra+marce|unmotorised vehicle|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)

velprevelma'e|ve+prenu+ve+marce|human-powered vehicle (e.g. bicycle, rickshaw)|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = prenu1 (person) = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)

velrelprevelma'e|ve+re+prenu+ve+marce|tandem bicycle|x1 = prenu1 (person) = marce4 (vehicle propulsion), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce1 (vehicle)

relxilma'e|re+xislu+marce|bicycle, motorbike|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce2 (cargo), x3 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x4 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)

sorprema'e|so'i+prenu+marce|mass transit vehicle|x1 = marce1 (vehicle), x2 = marce3 (medium for vehicle), x3 = marce4 (vehicle propulsion)||

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