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See [[Meeting other lojbanists]]
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* .i .ui mi nelci cuxna zoi my. [[jbocre: long tanru|long tanru]] .my.
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** Me too, but there are certain lujvo that have gained enough of a meaning that they are recommended in daily use. I do not even know what ''kai'' is a rafsi for, though I use the words javnakai and tavlakai. You won't find anyone saying ''bridi valsi'' or ''se cmavo'' - only brivla and selma'o.
  
* [[jbocre: gardenpathing|gardenpathing]]
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***''javnakai'' is a type-4 fu'ivla. ''ta vlakai'' means "that has wordness".
* [[jbocre: Calque|Calque]]
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**** I did not invent these lujvo, and they are both bad. javnakai should be javnikai, and tavlakai falis the [[jbocre: tosmabru test|tosmabru test]]. But they are used. Uh-oh.
  
* [[jbocre: semantic primes for Lojban emantic prime|semantic primes for Lojban emantic prime]]
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**** Sorry, just rechecked where they first popped up. All that over nothing: It's javnykai and tavlykai.
* [[jbocre: ''Gismu'' Agentive And Non-Agentive|''Gismu'' Agentive And Non-Agentive]] - ergativity
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*** ''kai'' is a [[jbocre: rafsi|rafsi]] for ''ckaji'', which means ''to have a property'', since everything which has a given property has that property, ''-kai'' doesn't change the meaning. (''mi na tugni di'u'' Well, what's the difference then?) Use something like ''-smi'', ''-(sel)te'i'', or ''-cfu''.
  
http://www.sil.org/linguistics/GlossaryOfLinguisticTerms/contents.htm
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* ma ckajykai

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See Meeting other lojbanists

  • .i .ui mi nelci cuxna zoi my. long tanru .my.
    • Me too, but there are certain lujvo that have gained enough of a meaning that they are recommended in daily use. I do not even know what kai is a rafsi for, though I use the words javnakai and tavlakai. You won't find anyone saying bridi valsi or se cmavo - only brivla and selma'o.
      • javnakai is a type-4 fu'ivla. ta vlakai means "that has wordness".
        • I did not invent these lujvo, and they are both bad. javnakai should be javnikai, and tavlakai falis the tosmabru test. But they are used. Uh-oh.
        • Sorry, just rechecked where they first popped up. All that over nothing: It's javnykai and tavlykai.
      • kai is a rafsi for ckaji, which means to have a property, since everything which has a given property has that property, -kai doesn't change the meaning. (mi na tugni di'u Well, what's the difference then?) Use something like -smi, -(sel)te'i, or -cfu.
  • ma ckajykai