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''runbau''


===  cmavo xo (PA5) ===
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==== Proposed Definition ====
Short form for ''[[jbocre: constructed language|constructed language]]'', human languages which are not [[jbocre: natural language|natural language]]s. Sometimes divided into three groups:


question word to which the answer is a number
* [[jbocre: artlang|artlang]]s, those devised for artistic purposes -- either per se, or for use in fiction.
** [[jbocre: Klingon|Klingon]]


====  Proposed Tag ====
** [http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/ Tolkien languages], which have given us [[jbocre: tengwar|tengwar]]
** [[jbocre: Láadan|Láadan]]


====  See Also ====
** [http://www.invisiblelighthouse.com/langlab/glaugnea.html Glaugnea]
** [[jbocre: Solresol|Solresol]]


==== Proposed Keywords ====
***Really for artistic ''purposes''? Its purpose seems to have been IAL, the "esthetic" side -- the musical version -- was partly practical (tone carries farther than words and is easier to pick out in a noisy environment) and partly either a bad joke or a misunderstanding of the claim that music is the universal language (which is clearly false even when rightly understood). pc
* [[jbocre: loglang|loglang]]s, more recently called ''[[jbocre: engelang ngelangs|engelang ngelangs]]'' (Engineered languages), those devised according to some sort of objective principles; [[jbocre: Lojban Description|Lojban]] is one of these.


====  Usage Examples ====
* [[jbocre: auxlang|auxlang]]s - international auxiliary languages
** ''a posteriori''


.i xo jbopre cu ka'e jai galfi lo spofu gusni balji .i re mei pa jdice be lo du'u galfi fi ma kau be'o ku ce pa facki be lo du'u ma kau balji gi'e te gusni lo spofu<br />
*** [[jbocre: Esperanto|Esperanto]]
*** [http://www.basiceng.com/ Basic English]


<br />
*** [http://cheshire.net/~jjbowks/auxiling/_intglos.html Interglossa]
*** [http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/2948/ Latino sine Flexione]


"How many Lojbanists does it take to change a broken light bulb? Two, one to figure out what to change it into, and the other to figure out what kind of bulb emits broken light."<br />
*** [http://www.interlingua.com/ Interlingua]
*** [http://members.aol.com/dkcsac/myhomepage/romanova.htm Romanova]


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*** [[jbocre: New conlang ondlango|Mondlango]]
** [[jbocre: Ygyde|Ygyde]]


doi la vensa la birti pu te preti fi lo du'u la'u xokau lo fraso prenu noi ji'a lojbo cu zasti  gi'e kucli lo du'u xukau ba xamgu zukte lo zu'o fanva zo'e la lojban lo fraso (mildly edited)<br />
** [http://www.unish.org Unish]
** [[jbocre: Inoffensish|Inoffensish]]


Vensa, Birti asked how many French people who are also Lojbanists exist and wonder if anybody will translate French things to Lojban.
** ''a priori''
*** [[jbocre: Sona|Sona]] ''(except for some borrowed radicals)''


====  Notes ====
*** ''ru'a lo me la'o ly. [[jbocre: a priori|a priori]] .ly bangu ka'e se pilno fi lo nu satci cusku lo smuni be lo gismu''


====  Issues ====
These categories are of course overlapping.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo ci'i (PA5) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
infinity; when followed by a number, denotes a transfinite cardinal, such as ℵ{SUB()}0{SUB}. As multiplication and exponentiation of transfinite ordinals is incompatible with that of cardinals, a new cmavo should be added for a transfinite ordinal, such as ω{SUB()}0{SUB}.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
ni'u ci'i prenu cu prami mi<br />
 
There are an infinitely negative number of people that love me. (best approximation)<br />
 
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du'o la .gugl. lo cmaci prenu cu tugni fi lo du'u me'o ci'i vu'u ci'i na se smuni<br />
 
Google knows that math people agree with the position that infinity minus infinity is uninterpretable.<br />
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo ka'o (PA5) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
i, imaginary unit. When followed by a real number, multiplies that number by i. If four real numbers are separated by three ''ka'o'', the number is a quaternion, with the components in the order 1, i, j, k.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
;saclu fi'ure loi lujna'u li paka'opa .iku'i saclu piro loi lujna'u li ni'upaka'opa:"Only half the complex numbers can be represented in base 1+i, but all complex numbers can be represented in base i-1."
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo pai (PA5) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
pi, circumference divided by diameter
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
.i li pai namcu .i loi pai gusta ku cizra se viska<br />
 
Pi is a number. There are pi restaurants which collectively are seen very strangely.<br />
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo te'o (PA5) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
e, Euler's number
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
;li te'o te'a ka'o bi'e pi'i pai su'i pa du li no:"''e''{SUP()}''i'' *𝜋{SUP}+1=0"
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo tu'o (PA5) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
null operand; inspecific number or placeholder digit
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
ta'o ji'a mi pu za gunka tu'o le lojbo samrxuebe pagbu<br />
 
Also, by the way, I worked on some number of web pages a while ago.<br />
 
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doi broca mi gleki tu'o lo nu do na ca bilma<br />
 
Broca, I am glad about X number of times you aren't ill.<br />
 
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mi ba'aru'e krici le nu da'i byfy cuxna tu'o lo denpa bu<br />
 
I kinda expect to believe that supposedly the BPFK would select some number of full-stops.<br />
 
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====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
[http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/1174052e98a26c31 ailing List Debate]
 
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===  General Section Issues ===

Revision as of 09:52, 20 November 2013

runbau


Short form for constructed language, human languages which are not natural languages. Sometimes divided into three groups:

  • artlangs, those devised for artistic purposes -- either per se, or for use in fiction.
      • Really for artistic purposes? Its purpose seems to have been IAL, the "esthetic" side -- the musical version -- was partly practical (tone carries farther than words and is easier to pick out in a noisy environment) and partly either a bad joke or a misunderstanding of the claim that music is the universal language (which is clearly false even when rightly understood). pc
  • loglangs, more recently called engelang ngelangs (Engineered languages), those devised according to some sort of objective principles; Lojban is one of these.
  • auxlangs - international auxiliary languages
    • a posteriori
    • a priori
      • Sona (except for some borrowed radicals)
      • ru'a lo me la'o ly. a priori .ly bangu ka'e se pilno fi lo nu satci cusku lo smuni be lo gismu

These categories are of course overlapping.