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=== ja'e ===


.i .yyyyy.  .uesai mu'i ma do tcidu di'u to mi'e camgusmis. toi
On the [[jbocre: justice|justice]] page, the question was brought up about how to


i mu'i le nu ri tolcanci le nuncne papri --[[User:xorxes|xorxes]]
translate "If you want peace, work for justice."  You can certainly
 
make this a logical implication statement ("Working for justice
 
implies peace", but if you want to keep the command nature, I think
 
it's best to use a modal, and best one I can find isn't mentioned
 
elsewhere on this page: ja'e ("with result").  This gives:
 
''ja'e .a'o le nu panpi ku ko gunka fi le ka drazba'': "With-result
 
(hope) peace, work for justice."
 
At any rate, it's a case where causality is implied, but the order
 
is reversed from what's expected (i.e., if <effect> is wanted,
 
then do <cause>).
 
The ''[[jbocre: gimste|gimste]]'' defines ''jalge'': x1 (action/event/state) is a result/outcome/conclusion of antecedent x2 (event/state/process). Of course ''ja'e'' derives from ''jalge''.
 
To me it sounds like an unspecified kind of causality: this is the result of that, no matter why.

Revision as of 16:53, 4 November 2013

ja'e

On the justice page, the question was brought up about how to

translate "If you want peace, work for justice." You can certainly

make this a logical implication statement ("Working for justice

implies peace", but if you want to keep the command nature, I think

it's best to use a modal, and best one I can find isn't mentioned

elsewhere on this page: ja'e ("with result"). This gives:

ja'e .a'o le nu panpi ku ko gunka fi le ka drazba: "With-result

(hope) peace, work for justice."

At any rate, it's a case where causality is implied, but the order

is reversed from what's expected (i.e., if <effect> is wanted,

then do <cause>).

The gimste defines jalge: x1 (action/event/state) is a result/outcome/conclusion of antecedent x2 (event/state/process). Of course ja'e derives from jalge.

To me it sounds like an unspecified kind of causality: this is the result of that, no matter why.