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Karda is an open-source flash card program for the desktop and the web, under development by [[Bruce Webber|Bruce Webber]] and timonator. Instead of presenting the user with a single word, Karda will present the user with a series of flashcards lined up simultaneously to form a grammatical Lojban sentence. [[jbocre: Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]] suggested the name, which is the Lojban word for "card", and created [http://matt.mattarn.googlepages.com/karda  requirements demo].
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Karda will be somewhat similar to SuperMemo, but will be open-source and cross-platform, using Python and wxPython. The existing open-source Python-based spaced-repetition software, Mnemosyne, is fine software for what it does, but is not conveniently accessable. With Karda, Lojbanists can devote time to memorization almost anywhere, have their progress backed up to the web, and get an RSS feed of repetitions they are scheduled for.
== Minutes of the 2004 Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc. ==


Every day the software looks at the list of words that are coming up for review, and selects sentences from its database (generated by the [[jbocre: pixra game|pixra game]]) that will include all of them at least once. It then adds each sentence to the user's RSS feed to alert them that they have a test. Each RSS feed entry contains a link directly to that test. The software will track the user on how well he or she remembers each individual word, but present it in sentences so that the user absorbs an understanding of grammar similar to how people absorb it from usage.
The sixteenth Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc. was called to order on MISSING DATE, 2004 at 2214 UTC


Karda tracks each word as two "facts": you are given the Lojban word and are asked for the English gloss, or given the English gloss and asked for the Lojban word. It tracks them as if they were separate
Roll call was taken of the members.


flashcards because the user is likely to be better at one of them than at the other and would need a different amount of repetition. But it knows that in a given sentence, it can test each word either way.
Members attending (15) were:


A failed word on a test will be scheduled to drill by itself, not part of a sentence. In Karda, drills work differently than tests. But the most important difference is in repetition. In Karda, each drill is also scheduled for repetition. In Supermemo, you often get the feeling that you've already forgotten some of the most difficult cards you've worked on today. You know they need more work, but they are gone from the list and you can't remember which ones they are. Tests in Karda operate on a 24-hour iteration like in Supermemo, but Karda keeps track of the minute a drill is taken, and triggers recurrences of the drill after a certain number of minutes have passed rather than days. It cuts the period in half when the user fails the word, doubling it when the user succeeds, until the user has remembered it over a delay of six hours or until the word comes up to test again. Each repetition also generates an entry in the RSS feed.
* [[jbocre: Pierre Abbat|Pierre Abbat]]
* [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]


Of course, it would have to require the user to enter what time zone they are in, so it won't count the time they spend sleeping.
* Jerome Desquilbet
* John Hodges


[[Bruce Webber|Bruce Webber]] set up the project at [http://www.karda.org/ arda.org]. There's a link from the home page to [http://trac.karda.org/ rac], the source code management system for this project. Subversion is set up for version control. If you would like participate, please let Bruce know and he will set up a Trac user ID for you.
* Charles Hope
* [[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]]
 
* [[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
* [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
 
* [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]
* [[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambias]]
 
* [[jbocre: Robin Powell|Robin Powell]]
* [[jbocre: And Rosta|And Rosta]]
 
* Rob Speer
* [[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]]
 
* [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
* Gary Burgess (arrived after the roll call).
 
Members "present" (4) by proxy:
 
* Gregory Dyke (to And Rosta)
* Veijo Vilva (to Robert LeChevalier)
 
* Robin Turner
* Unidentified (to Jorge Llambias)
 
=== Roll call of members: Taken  ===
 
19 members present - Quorum.
 
The chair was turned over to [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]].
 
Formal notice of the meeting was not given, there fore the chair ruled that bylaw amendments were not in order.
 
=== Reading of Previous Meeting Minutes ===
 
The chair waived the reading of the previous meeting's minutes as they were available at [[jbocre: LLG 2003 Annual Meeting Minutes]]. There were no objections.
 
=== Reports of Officers ===
 
The chair waived the Secretary and Treasurer reports in favour of their incorporation into the 2004 AGM Minutes. There were no objections.
 
The chair waived the reading of the President's Report as it was not complete, in favour of its incorporation into the 2004 AGM Minutes.  [[jbocre: Robin Powell|Robin Powell]] requested a one-sentence synopsis for the record: "Not much happened this year except for the [[jbocre: byfy|byfy]], which made some excellent progress."
 
=== Reports of Committees ===
 
The [[jbocre: byfy|byfy]] report had already been filed as of the 2004 AGM, and so the chair waived its reading.
 
The bookkeeping committee report had already been filed as of the 2004 AGM, and so the chair waived its reading.
 
The Worldcon committee representative was absent and so the chair waived the reading of the report.
 
=== Election of New Members ===
 
Present, but not members:
 
* jsled (legal name not given)
* [[jbocre: Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] (was in the channel, but not actually attentive)
 
* Yann Le Du
 
Qualifications, responsibilities explained. Yann Le Du desired to be considered.
 
* MOVED: To offer membership to Yann Le Du - PASSED without objection.
* MOVED: To offer membership to [[jbocre: Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] not present. - PASSED without objection
 
=== Election of Board of Directors ===
 
Current Board includes
 
* [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]
* [[jbocre: Robin Powell|Robin Powell]]
 
* [[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
* [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
 
* Charles Hope
* [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]
 
No new nominations were proposed.  The existing board of directors were acclaimed for the 2004-2005 term.
 
=== Old Business ===
 
* MOVED: The Worldcon committee be discharged and converted into a project. - PASSED without objection
* MOVED: The Bookkeeping Procedures committee be discharged. - PASSED without objection
 
* MOVED: jboske be added as a separate project. - DROPPED due to lack of interest
* MOVED: Lojban Java list be added as a project. - DROPPED due to lack of interest
 
=== Bylaw Amendments ===
 
Since formal notice of the meeting was not given, votes on bylaw amendments were not binding and server only as "straw votes" to determine the sense of the meeting.
 
* MOVED: Amendment 9a (election of officers by general meeting rather than board members) - PASSED without objection (NON-BINDING)
* MOVED: Amendment 9b (references to specific communication methods replaced with more flexible language) - committed to committee for report, then voted on - PASSED (NON-BINDING)
 
** [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]] noted that there may be some issues with Virginia law associated with communications methods.
** The final vote was 15 in favour, 1 against, two abstentions
 
* MOVED: Amendment 9c.i (abolition of proxies entirely) - proceeded to a  rollcall vote - FAILED
** The final vote was 3 in favour, 16 against, with one abstention.
 
* MOVED: Amendment 9c.ii (abolition of blind proxies) - DROPPED without objection due to lack of clear meaning of "blind" and "instructed" in the amendment
 
=== Removal of Old Members ===
 
* MOVED: David Twery be removed for lack of activity - FAILED
* The final vote was 7 in favour, 6 against (2/3 majority required)
 
* MOVED: Dave Barton be removed for lack of activity - FAILED
* The final vote was 9 in favour, 6 against (2/3 majority required)
 
=== Adjournment ===
 
The meeting was adjourned by the chair at 0226 UTC

Revision as of 16:59, 4 November 2013

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Minutes of the 2004 Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc.

The sixteenth Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc. was called to order on MISSING DATE, 2004 at 2214 UTC

Roll call was taken of the members.

Members attending (15) were:

  • Jerome Desquilbet
  • John Hodges

Members "present" (4) by proxy:

  • Gregory Dyke (to And Rosta)
  • Veijo Vilva (to Robert LeChevalier)
  • Robin Turner
  • Unidentified (to Jorge Llambias)

Roll call of members: Taken

19 members present - Quorum.

The chair was turned over to John Cowan.

Formal notice of the meeting was not given, there fore the chair ruled that bylaw amendments were not in order.

Reading of Previous Meeting Minutes

The chair waived the reading of the previous meeting's minutes as they were available at jbocre: LLG 2003 Annual Meeting Minutes. There were no objections.

Reports of Officers

The chair waived the Secretary and Treasurer reports in favour of their incorporation into the 2004 AGM Minutes. There were no objections.

The chair waived the reading of the President's Report as it was not complete, in favour of its incorporation into the 2004 AGM Minutes. Robin Powell requested a one-sentence synopsis for the record: "Not much happened this year except for the byfy, which made some excellent progress."

Reports of Committees

The byfy report had already been filed as of the 2004 AGM, and so the chair waived its reading.

The bookkeeping committee report had already been filed as of the 2004 AGM, and so the chair waived its reading.

The Worldcon committee representative was absent and so the chair waived the reading of the report.

Election of New Members

Present, but not members:

  • jsled (legal name not given)
  • Theodore Reed (was in the channel, but not actually attentive)
  • Yann Le Du

Qualifications, responsibilities explained. Yann Le Du desired to be considered.

  • MOVED: To offer membership to Yann Le Du - PASSED without objection.
  • MOVED: To offer membership to Theodore Reed not present. - PASSED without objection

Election of Board of Directors

Current Board includes

No new nominations were proposed. The existing board of directors were acclaimed for the 2004-2005 term.

Old Business

  • MOVED: The Worldcon committee be discharged and converted into a project. - PASSED without objection
  • MOVED: The Bookkeeping Procedures committee be discharged. - PASSED without objection
  • MOVED: jboske be added as a separate project. - DROPPED due to lack of interest
  • MOVED: Lojban Java list be added as a project. - DROPPED due to lack of interest

Bylaw Amendments

Since formal notice of the meeting was not given, votes on bylaw amendments were not binding and server only as "straw votes" to determine the sense of the meeting.

  • MOVED: Amendment 9a (election of officers by general meeting rather than board members) - PASSED without objection (NON-BINDING)
  • MOVED: Amendment 9b (references to specific communication methods replaced with more flexible language) - committed to committee for report, then voted on - PASSED (NON-BINDING)
    • Bob LeChevalier noted that there may be some issues with Virginia law associated with communications methods.
    • The final vote was 15 in favour, 1 against, two abstentions
  • MOVED: Amendment 9c.i (abolition of proxies entirely) - proceeded to a rollcall vote - FAILED
    • The final vote was 3 in favour, 16 against, with one abstention.
  • MOVED: Amendment 9c.ii (abolition of blind proxies) - DROPPED without objection due to lack of clear meaning of "blind" and "instructed" in the amendment

Removal of Old Members

  • MOVED: David Twery be removed for lack of activity - FAILED
  • The final vote was 7 in favour, 6 against (2/3 majority required)
  • MOVED: Dave Barton be removed for lack of activity - FAILED
  • The final vote was 9 in favour, 6 against (2/3 majority required)

Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned by the chair at 0226 UTC

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