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This is an attempt to get a vocabulary list in an order suitable for learning. Simply using the frequency lists is one way of getting started, but that is heavily biased by having been drawn from early discussions of lojban itself, hence the words sumti, selbri and other lojbanic terms are overly represented.


Please, one gismu only, what one gismu would you suggest a person learn? Please add it to this table:
==  Proposed Definitions And Examples ==


{| class="wikitable"
===  Proposed Definition of ''ce'e'' ===
|| lojban gismu
| colspan="2" | English keyword


|-
;'''ce'e''' (CEhE): Links termset sumti. Placed between sumti which are to be put together in a termset.
|| troci
|| try
|| ColinWright


|-
** Keywords: termset sumti connector
|| djuno
|| know
|| kolin.rait


|-
===  Examples of ''ce'e'' Usage ===
|| dunda
|| give
|| xorxes


|-
mi klama le zarci ce'e le briju pe'e je le zdani ce'e le ckule<br />
|| mutce
|| much
|| eppkott


|-
''I go to the store from the office and from the store to the school.''<br />
|| cusku
|| express
|| betsemes


|-
pilno lo nandu zenba tadji ce'e lo certu kelci pe'e je lo nandu jdika tadji ce'e lo to'e certu kelci<br />
|| djica
|| desire
|| filip


|-
"You use increasing difficulty to get good at the game, decreasing difficulty to get bad."<br />
|| sidju
|| help
|| bobgrif


|-
mi mutce djica tu'a lo carvi ce'e seba'i lo snime pe'eje tu'a lo no'e glare seba'i lo lenku<br />
|| drata
|| other
|| cuncuxnas


|-
"I really want it to rain instead of snow and be warm instead of cold."<br />
|| zasti
|| exist
|| uirik


|-
===  Proposed Definition of ''nu'i'' ===
|| gleki
|| happy
|| komfo,amonan


|}
;'''nu'i''' (NUhI): Starts a forethought termset. The terminator for "nu'i" is "nu'u", which is often elidable.
And add your recommended cmavo here:


** Keywords: forethought termset


{| class="wikitable"
===  Examples of ''nu'i'' Usage ===
|| lojban cmavo
| colspan="2" | English gloss


|-
abu troci le nu vreta gi'e punji nu'ige lo cidni le lamji be le vorme gi le drata birka le sruri be le stedu<br />
|| le .. ku
|| the described
|| ColinWright


|-
''She tried the effect of lying down with one elbow against the door, and the other arm curled round her head.''
|| be .. bei .. be'o
|| linked sumti
|| kolin.rait


|-
nu'i ge'i li no pi mu fo li no gi li no fo li pa dilcu fe li pa li re<br />
|| cu
|| separates selbri from preceding terms
|| xorxes


|-
"Does 0.5 remainder 0 or 0 remainder 1 equal 1 divided by 2?"
|| ma
|| sumti question mark
|| eppkott


|-
===  Proposed Definition of ''nu'u'' ===
|| mi
|| me
|| betsemes


|-
;'''nu'u''' (NUhU): End forethought termset. Usually elidable except when sumti follow the termset. It also goes before the "gi" in forethought termset logical connection, but there it can generally (always?) be elided.
|| xu
|| true-false ?
|| filip


|-
** Keywords: termset terminator
|| mo
|| bridi question mark
|| bobgrif


|-
===  Examples of ''nu'u'' Usage ===
|| mi'e
|| self-introduction
|| cuncuxnas


|-
nu'i ge ko mi ca ku gi mi ko ba ku nu'u spuda<br />
|| nu
|| event abstract
|| uirik


|-
"Answer me now and be answered by me later!"
|| to'e
|| polar opposite
|| komfo,amonan


|}
"I asked first!"
Should we sign? Does it help? Does it matter?
 
la .djan. fa'u la .frank. cusku nu'i bau la .lojban. nu'u fa'u bai la .djordj. [[nu'u|nu'u]]<br />
 
"John and Frank speak in Lojban and under George's compulsion, respectively."
 
===  Proposed Definition of ''pe'e'' ===
 
;'''pe'e''' (PEhE): Marks the following connective (either JA or JOI?) as the connector of the containing termset. Goes between sets of "ce'e"-joined sumti.
 
** Keywords: termset connective
 
===  Examples of ''pe'e'' Usage ===
 
mi pe'e ja do ce'e le zarci cu klama le briju<br />
 
"I go to the office and/or you go to the market from the office."
 
mi djica ta'e ce'e tu'a lo ckafi pe'e je ta'e nai ce'e lo tcati<br />
 
"I normally want coffee, occasionally tea."
 
==  Notes ==
 
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/tree/browse_frm/month/2008-06/d804f76248801311?rnum=61&amp;_done=%2Fgroup%2Flojban%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2008-06%3F#doc_fecb397215d272da ermsets and equal scope.]
 
==  Impact ==

Revision as of 12:42, 23 March 2014

Proposed Definitions And Examples

Proposed Definition of ce'e

ce'e (CEhE)
Links termset sumti. Placed between sumti which are to be put together in a termset.
    • Keywords: termset sumti connector

Examples of ce'e Usage

mi klama le zarci ce'e le briju pe'e je le zdani ce'e le ckule

I go to the store from the office and from the store to the school.

pilno lo nandu zenba tadji ce'e lo certu kelci pe'e je lo nandu jdika tadji ce'e lo to'e certu kelci

"You use increasing difficulty to get good at the game, decreasing difficulty to get bad."

mi mutce djica tu'a lo carvi ce'e seba'i lo snime pe'eje tu'a lo no'e glare seba'i lo lenku

"I really want it to rain instead of snow and be warm instead of cold."

Proposed Definition of nu'i

nu'i (NUhI)
Starts a forethought termset. The terminator for "nu'i" is "nu'u", which is often elidable.
    • Keywords: forethought termset

Examples of nu'i Usage

abu troci le nu vreta gi'e punji nu'ige lo cidni le lamji be le vorme gi le drata birka le sruri be le stedu

She tried the effect of lying down with one elbow against the door, and the other arm curled round her head.

nu'i ge'i li no pi mu fo li no gi li no fo li pa dilcu fe li pa li re

"Does 0.5 remainder 0 or 0 remainder 1 equal 1 divided by 2?"

Proposed Definition of nu'u

nu'u (NUhU)
End forethought termset. Usually elidable except when sumti follow the termset. It also goes before the "gi" in forethought termset logical connection, but there it can generally (always?) be elided.
    • Keywords: termset terminator

Examples of nu'u Usage

nu'i ge ko mi ca ku gi mi ko ba ku nu'u spuda

"Answer me now and be answered by me later!"

"I asked first!"

la .djan. fa'u la .frank. cusku nu'i bau la .lojban. nu'u fa'u bai la .djordj. nu'u

"John and Frank speak in Lojban and under George's compulsion, respectively."

Proposed Definition of pe'e

pe'e (PEhE)
Marks the following connective (either JA or JOI?) as the connector of the containing termset. Goes between sets of "ce'e"-joined sumti.
    • Keywords: termset connective

Examples of pe'e Usage

mi pe'e ja do ce'e le zarci cu klama le briju

"I go to the office and/or you go to the market from the office."

mi djica ta'e ce'e tu'a lo ckafi pe'e je ta'e nai ce'e lo tcati

"I normally want coffee, occasionally tea."

Notes

Impact

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