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{{irci|vensa|ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj}}
<code>[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <vensa> ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj
{{irci|tomoj|is there a vague PA}}
[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <tomoj> is there a vague PA
{{irci|selckiku|i don't mind '''malgli''', that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder}}
[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <selckiku> i don't mind "malgli", that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder
{{irci|vensa|selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)<br/>tomoj: ji'i}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)
{{irci|selckiku|huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> tomoj: ji'i
{{irci|tomoj|the thing is, I don't even know the number<br/>nor whether it's typical}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <selckiku> huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??
{{irci|vensa|you can use '''za'u'''}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> ji'i
{{irci|tomoj|I just know it's in the hundreds}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> hmm
{{irci|vensa|or '''su'o'''}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> the thing is, I don't even know the number
{{irci|selckiku|'''ji'i''' makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> nor whether it's typical
{{irci|vensa|so '''za'u panono'''}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> you can use {za'u}
{{irci|tomoj|so I was thinking '''XX no no'''}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> I just know it's in the hundreds
{{irci|vensa|selckiku: y not?}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> or {su'o}
{{irci|selckiku|i dunno, i'd just never seen it}}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <selckiku> "ji'i" makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?
{{irci|tomoj|well..}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> so {za'u panono}
{{irci|selckiku|what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway<br/>zo ji'i cmavo ma}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> so I was thinking "XX no no"
{{irci|tomoj|10000 is '''za'u pa no no''', isn't it?}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> selckiku: y not?
{{irci|valsi|ji'i {{=}} digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> i dunno, i'd just never seen it
{{irci|vensa|tomoj: you can try '''xo paunai no no'''}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> well..
{{irci|tomoj|it's PA}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway
{{irci|selckiku|ok then, i guess '''li ji'i''' is a pretty vague number then}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> zo ji'i cmavo ma
{{irci|vensa|selckiku: is '''za'u panono''' {{=}} "more than one hundred" or "10000"?}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> 10000 is {za'u pa no no}, isn't it?
{{irci|valsi|za'u {{=}} digit/number: greater than.}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> valsi: ji'i
{{irci|selckiku|10000 is more than 100, sure}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <valsi> ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).
{{irci|vensa|yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?<br/>oh wait<br/>nm.<br/>tomoj wasnt arguing with me<br/>I was including "10000" as a referent of '''za'u panono'''}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> tomoj: you can try {xo paunai no no}
{{irci|selckiku|it's a somewhat unusual meaning of '''za'upanono''' but it depends on the context}}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> it's PA
{{irci|tomoj|I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9}}
[[jbocre: 10:25|10:25]] <selckiku> ok then, i guess {li ji'i} is a pretty vague number then
{{irci|vensa|doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu<br/>tomoj: then you need a regex :P}}
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <vensa> selckiku: is {za'u panono} = "more than one hunderd" or "10000"?
{{irci|tomoj|hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :)}}
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <vensa> valsi za'u
{{irci|valsi|boxfo {{=}} x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket <nowiki>[2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions]</nowiki> of material x2.<br/>no'o {{=}} digit/number: typical/average value.}}
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <valsi> za'u = digit/number: greater than.
{{irci|selckiku|the cmavo space is rather busy, really}}
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <selckiku> 10000 is more than 100, sure
{{irci|vensa|how about {no'o no no}?<br/>if anything, it sounds hilarious}}
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> oh wait
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> nm.
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> tomoj wasnt arguing with me
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[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> I was including "10000" as a referent of {za'u panono}
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <selckiku> it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <tomoj> I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <vensa> doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <vensa> tomoj: then you need a regex :P
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]]  * ctino is going to try connecting with a real IRC client and will return soon
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> yay! citno
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> *Ctino
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[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <tomoj> hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :)
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> hah
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> valsi bo'o
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <valsi> boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket [[jbocre: 2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions|2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions]] of material x2.
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> valsi no'o
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <valsi> no'o = digit/number: typical/average value.
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <selckiku> the cmavo space is rather busy, really
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[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> how about {no'o no no}?
[[jbocre: 10:30|10:30]] <vensa> if anything, it sounds hillarious</code>

Latest revision as of 15:40, 23 December 2014

vensa ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj
tomoj is there a vague PA
selckiku i don't mind malgli, that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder
vensa selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)
tomoj: ji'i
selckiku huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??
tomoj the thing is, I don't even know the number
nor whether it's typical
vensa you can use za'u
tomoj I just know it's in the hundreds
vensa or su'o
selckiku ji'i makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?
vensa so za'u panono
tomoj so I was thinking XX no no
vensa selckiku: y not?
selckiku i dunno, i'd just never seen it
tomoj well..
selckiku what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway
zo ji'i cmavo ma
tomoj 10000 is za'u pa no no, isn't it?
valsi ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).
vensa tomoj: you can try xo paunai no no
tomoj it's PA
selckiku ok then, i guess li ji'i is a pretty vague number then
vensa selckiku: is za'u panono = "more than one hundred" or "10000"?
valsi za'u = digit/number: greater than.
selckiku 10000 is more than 100, sure
vensa yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?
oh wait
nm.
tomoj wasnt arguing with me
I was including "10000" as a referent of za'u panono
selckiku it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context
tomoj I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9
vensa doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu
tomoj: then you need a regex :P
tomoj hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :)
valsi boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket [2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions] of material x2.
no'o = digit/number: typical/average value.
selckiku the cmavo space is rather busy, really
vensa how about {no'o no no}?
if anything, it sounds hilarious
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