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An argument sometimes applied to Lojban semantics by [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]], which goes something like this:


i ko jmina le cmene e lei tcila va'o le nu do se cinri le nu penmi loi drata jbopli vi le se xabju be do
{{quotation|X (a Lojban construct) <u>could</u> in principle mean any of Y or Z. But if you use X to mean Y, you'd be an ass. The listener should assume that you are not being an ass, and that you really mean Z.}}


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Arguably, this is a rediscovery of Grice's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle cooperative principle].
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*[[jbocre: Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]
*[[jbocre: Evgenii Sklyanin|Evgenii Sklyanin]], York, eks2@york.ac.uk
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lo gugdrsuomi ''(Finland)''
* Veijo Vilva (veion), Porvoo/Borgå, veijo.vilva@gmail.com
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Latest revision as of 16:36, 9 May 2017

An argument sometimes applied to Lojban semantics by Robin Lee Powell, which goes something like this:

X (a Lojban construct) could in principle mean any of Y or Z. But if you use X to mean Y, you'd be an ass. The listener should assume that you are not being an ass, and that you really mean Z.

Arguably, this is a rediscovery of Grice's cooperative principle.

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