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If you're interested in translating descriptions of the elements, there is a public domain mini-dictionary of the elements at [http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~kominek/elements/] It is public domain, so there isn't any need for this, but anyone translating it into Lojban has my explicit permission to do so. (If nothing else, it is a comprehensive listing of the IUPAC element names) --[[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay]] | |||
Here's the periodic table in Lojban: [http://phma.optus.nu/Language/selratni.html] --phma | |||
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Chemical morphology is much like Lojban morphology. I therefore think that for Lojban to become a good language to write chemistry in, we need a set of gismu (preferably with rafsi) for concepts such as ''x1 is an aldehyde derived from x2'', ''x1 is an alkene with x2 carbon atoms and double bonds at locations x3'', and ''x1 is an ether of radicals x2 and x3''. We already have silna, slami, jilka, and xalka. | |||
*gikla [[jbocre: gil|gil]] x1 is a radical of x2. e.g. jaurgikla = hydroxyl, jaurgilsodna = sodium hydroxide. | |||
*xudvu [[jbocre: xud xu'u|xud xu'u]] x1 is an aldehyde derived from x2 | |||
*gresu [[jbocre: ges|ges]] x1 is an alkene derived from x2, with double bond at x3 | |||
*grisu [[jbocre: gis|gis]] x1 is an alkyne derived from x2, with triple bond at x3 | |||
*benzo [[jbocre: bez|bez]] x1 is an aromatic compound characterized by/derived from x2 | |||
*trona x1 is an amine of x2 | |||
*truna x1 is an imine of x2 and x3 | |||
*metli x1 is methane; x1 is a methyl compound of type x2 | |||
*xetli x1 is ethane; x1 is an ethyl compound of type x2 | |||
*zmase 'enzyme, -ase' x1 catalyzes reaction x2 (nu) | |||
*tonke x1 is a ketone of x2 and x3 | |||
''gresu'' and ''grisu'' are derived from ''grasu''; ''ctile'' would be semantically better, but the rafsi aren't available, although ''ctile'' [[jbocre: CouldaBeenRafsi ould have|CouldaBeenRafsi ould have]] had the rafsi ''cle''. | |||
''xudvu'' is made from consonants of ''xalka'', ''cidro'', and ''vimcu'' with semi-arbitrary vowels. | |||
''trona'' and ''truna'' are derived from ''trano''. So an amino acid is ''tronyslami'' (also ''lanbysle'' but ''tronyslami'' also applies to nylon monomers) and ''reltabgresu reltrona vonsarvanslami'' is EDTA. | |||
For acids, though, I feel that the perXic/hypoXous system is too arbitrary. I suggest instead lujvo like cancmucibykijyslami. | |||
--phma | |||
[[jbocre: Common chemicals|Common chemicals]] | |||
Revision as of 16:45, 4 November 2013
If you're interested in translating descriptions of the elements, there is a public domain mini-dictionary of the elements at [1] It is public domain, so there isn't any need for this, but anyone translating it into Lojban has my explicit permission to do so. (If nothing else, it is a comprehensive listing of the IUPAC element names) --Jay
Here's the periodic table in Lojban: [2] --phma
Chemical morphology is much like Lojban morphology. I therefore think that for Lojban to become a good language to write chemistry in, we need a set of gismu (preferably with rafsi) for concepts such as x1 is an aldehyde derived from x2, x1 is an alkene with x2 carbon atoms and double bonds at locations x3, and x1 is an ether of radicals x2 and x3. We already have silna, slami, jilka, and xalka.
- gikla gil x1 is a radical of x2. e.g. jaurgikla = hydroxyl, jaurgilsodna = sodium hydroxide.
- xudvu xud xu'u x1 is an aldehyde derived from x2
- gresu ges x1 is an alkene derived from x2, with double bond at x3
- grisu gis x1 is an alkyne derived from x2, with triple bond at x3
- benzo bez x1 is an aromatic compound characterized by/derived from x2
- trona x1 is an amine of x2
- truna x1 is an imine of x2 and x3
- metli x1 is methane; x1 is a methyl compound of type x2
- xetli x1 is ethane; x1 is an ethyl compound of type x2
- zmase 'enzyme, -ase' x1 catalyzes reaction x2 (nu)
- tonke x1 is a ketone of x2 and x3
gresu and grisu are derived from grasu; ctile would be semantically better, but the rafsi aren't available, although ctile CouldaBeenRafsi ould have had the rafsi cle.
xudvu is made from consonants of xalka, cidro, and vimcu with semi-arbitrary vowels.
trona and truna are derived from trano. So an amino acid is tronyslami (also lanbysle but tronyslami also applies to nylon monomers) and reltabgresu reltrona vonsarvanslami is EDTA.
For acids, though, I feel that the perXic/hypoXous system is too arbitrary. I suggest instead lujvo like cancmucibykijyslami.
--phma