quoting Vowels
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| tcatipax | ".i do ka'e jmina fi .ubu" = you have innate ability to add something to/with u? What am I getting wrong? |
| selpa`i | Is it wrong? |
| vensa | tcati: who said anything is wrong? |
| selpa`i | It parses |
| tcatipax | So, my interpretation is correct? I don't know how that makes sense. It's on the front page of wikipedia. The lojban version. |
| selpa`i | Could ubu be an abbreviation`? |
| Twey | Yes It has to be Otherwise it would be me'o .ubu, or something. |
| selpa`i | So maybe the section's name starts with u |
| vensa | its short for .uikipedias |
| selpa`i | There you go. |
| vensa | the sentence before says .uikipedias |
| selpa`i | Context. |
| vensa | hehe |
| tcatipax | Ah. Thanks! |
| vensa | je'e |
| tcatipax | I mean, ki'e .ui |
| vensa | Twey: wouldn lu ubu li'u cut it too? |
| Twey | vensa: Not quite the same |
| vensa | li ubu seems to cut it Twey: whats the diff? |
| Twey | li .ubu is, I think, interpreting it as a mathematical variable with a number value |
| vensa | I read me'o is the wuote-equivalent for lerfu strings ok. but y not lu ubu li'u? |
| Twey | lu ubu li'u would be quoting it as a whole utterance |
| vensa | what does it mean "as a whole utterance"? if it were by instead and I used zo by? |
| Twey | No, not lu ubu li'u, indeed |
| vensa | If the whole contents of your quote ends up to be one letter ubu), how is that different from zo? |
| Twey | lu/li'u is for grammatical utterances Whole grammatical utterances So it's taking that as a whole phrase that someone said, or something like that |
| vensa | so,would lo'u le'u be ok with you? |
| Twey | No, because that doesn't take grammar into account |
| Twey | So ubu would be the two words .u and bu |
| vensa | it wont parse the bu? so you're saying zo by is not equivalent to lu ubu li'u? so basically theres no way to quote a U? |
| Twey | Not the single character U Sure there is — me'o |
| vensa | (except me'o) but by can be quoted in two ways that doesnt seem fair |
| Twey | You can also quote with lu/li'u, but that means that it's dereferenced too (although possibly in a different context) |
| vensa | another reason to prefer my term for U: u'y |
| Twey | Twey doesn't see what's wrong with me'o. |
| vensa | nothings *wrong* with it I just dont like the injustice that befalls vowels in lojban :) |
