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Gleki at 14:54, 24 December 2014
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Gleki at 13:30, 24 December 2014
2014-12-24T13:30:59Z
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Gleki at 13:29, 24 December 2014
2014-12-24T13:29:27Z
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Gleki at 12:26, 24 December 2014
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Like what if Broca actually uses <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>la broca<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">}</del>, and then in a year suddenly we start a gismu <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>broca<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>that means "x1 is a puss/wimp that can't do x2 and licks giant sweaty balls x3 while being sodomised in orifice x4 by big sloppy dong x5.".}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Like what if Broca actually uses <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>la broca<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>, and then in a year suddenly we start a gismu <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>broca<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>that means "x1 is a puss/wimp that can't do x2 and licks giant sweaty balls x3 while being sodomised in orifice x4 by big sloppy dong x5.".}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|if *<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>tomjo<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>counts as a selbri, then I should be able to use it outside of names too}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|if *<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>tomjo<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>counts as a selbri, then I should be able to use it outside of names too}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|tomoj: you CAN<br/>it just want make SEMANTIC sense<br/>.u'i lindar}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|tomoj: you CAN<br/>it just want make SEMANTIC sense<br/>.u'i lindar}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Then suddenly he's named "the pussy that can't do shit and licks giant sweaty balls while being sodomised by a big sloppy dong.".<br/>That's my only issue, really.}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Then suddenly he's named "the pussy that can't do shit and licks giant sweaty balls while being sodomised by a big sloppy dong.".<br/>That's my only issue, really.}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: <vensa> just like what if your name ends up being a meaningful rafsi combination}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: <vensa> just like what if your name ends up being a meaningful rafsi combination}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Sure, something like that.}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Sure, something like that.}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: so it can happen to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cmelva </del>too}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: so it can happen to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cmevla </ins>too}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[09:12] * </del>lindar is actually named Lindar, and finds the coincidence hilarious.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{irci|lindar|''</ins>lindar is actually named Lindar, and finds the coincidence hilarious.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''}}</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|valsi affix: lin}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|valsi affix: lin}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|perhaps<br/>but it is a PLAUSIBLE option}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|perhaps<br/>but it is a PLAUSIBLE option}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|i tried to get everyone to call them "jvosmicmevla" but people are saying "jvocme" instead b/c they don't like clajvo, o well}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|i tried to get everyone to call them "jvosmicmevla" but people are saying "jvocme" instead b/c they don't like clajvo, o well}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|so would it only be PLAUSIBLE that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>broca<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>chose his name according to the gismu of "pussy"}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|so would it only be PLAUSIBLE that <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>broca<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>chose his name according to the gismu of "pussy"}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|Twey|o.@}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|Twey|o.@}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|it doesn't have denotative meaning, but it has some connotative meaning}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|it doesn't have denotative meaning, but it has some connotative meaning}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|I'm putting this in the discussions section later :)}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|I'm putting this in the discussions section later :)}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|I was saying that if somebody names themselves $namethatisanundefinedgismu and then we define that gismu... then what?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|I was saying that if somebody names themselves $namethatisanundefinedgismu and then we define that gismu... then what?}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|selckiku: yes, but with english font<br/>lindar: what difference is that from <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>lindar<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>that happens to be a rafsi chain?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|selckiku: yes, but with english font<br/>lindar: what difference is that from <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>lindar<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>that happens to be a rafsi chain?}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|then there name acquires a selbri meaning, so what?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|then there name acquires a selbri meaning, so what?}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|maybe its on purpose, maybe not}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|maybe its on purpose, maybe not}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|it's so multilingual in here! next thing you know we'll actually be culturally neutral}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|it's so multilingual in here! next thing you know we'll actually be culturally neutral}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|vensa: Because THOSE names have incidental meaning.}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|vensa: Because THOSE names have incidental meaning.}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|Broca: say <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>tomjo}}<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">}</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|Broca: say <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>tomjo}}<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: IMO a gismu name can be incidental as wel<br/>as long as it's "la selbri"}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: IMO a gismu name can be incidental as wel<br/>as long as it's "la selbri"}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|If I name myself <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>donri<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>then I'm not going to be an asshole and say, "No, I'm not called 'Day', it's just 'donri' the letters.".}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|If I name myself <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>donri<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>then I'm not going to be an asshole and say, "No, I'm not called 'Day', it's just 'donri' the letters.".}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|maybe I call myself <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>la ganxo<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>because I like the sound of it :)}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|maybe I call myself <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>la ganxo<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>because I like the sound of it :)}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Yeah, no.<br/>Please adhere to a policy of non-gluteality.}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|Yeah, no.<br/>Please adhere to a policy of non-gluteality.}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|tomoj: I suspect the Yeah was cinical (lindarP) :)}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|tomoj: I suspect the Yeah was cinical (lindarP) :)}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|If my name is "Rose", then it's fucking "Rose". If my name is "Blue" then my name is "Blue". If your name is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>xalbo<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>then your name is actually <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>xalbo<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">}</del>. Do you see what I'm saying?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|If my name is "Rose", then it's fucking "Rose". If my name is "Blue" then my name is "Blue". If your name is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>xalbo<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>then your name is actually <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>xalbo<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>. Do you see what I'm saying?}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: no}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: no}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|"kucli" is a nice gi'ucme<br/>i've always loved the word "kucli"}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|selckiku|"kucli" is a nice gi'ucme<br/>i've always loved the word "kucli"}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|so some names have associated meanings}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|so some names have associated meanings}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|In Lojban, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>selckiku<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>ACTUALLY means means "lock".}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|In Lojban, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>selckiku<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>ACTUALLY means means "lock".}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|why does that mean we shouldn't be allowed to use names with no associated meaning?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|why does that mean we shouldn't be allowed to use names with no associated meaning?}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: are you disagreeing with me when it comes to lojban only? or in english as well?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: are you disagreeing with me when it comes to lojban only? or in english as well?}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|The FACT of the matter is that it is DEFINED as "The one named...".}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|The FACT of the matter is that it is DEFINED as "The one named...".}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|also, jabberwocky<br/>a lojban translation of jabberwocky should use morphological selbri that aren't actual selbri}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|also, jabberwocky<br/>a lojban translation of jabberwocky should use morphological selbri that aren't actual selbri}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|So <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>la xalbo<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>is unambiguously DEFINED as "The one named 'levitous-thing'.". That's what it means.}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|lindar|So <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>la xalbo<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>is unambiguously DEFINED as "The one named 'levitous-thing'.". That's what it means.}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|perhaps some morphological cmavo and fu'ivla too?}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|tomoj|perhaps some morphological cmavo and fu'ivla too?}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: all im saying is that it doesnt neccessarily mean that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{</del>la xalbo<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">} </del>is aware of the meaning of his name, or wether he chose it BECAUSE of its meaning}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{irci|vensa|lindar: all im saying is that it doesnt neccessarily mean that <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</ins>la xalbo<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''' </ins>is aware of the meaning of his name, or wether he chose it BECAUSE of its meaning}}</div></td></tr>
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part of [[jbocre: Taxonomy|Taxonomy]]<br />
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If you're being precise, you should call this taxon ''ri'ospa'', "green plants", to distinguish them from red algae, diatoms and kelp, and other unrelated organisms that might be called ''spati''.<br />
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*'''spati'''<br />
**clikyspa<br />
<br />
**bluspati<br />
***filcina<br />
<br />
***tsispati<br />
****'''ckunu'''<br />
<br />
*****ricrpino, jesyckunu<br />
*****junpero<br />
<br />
*****ricrcikade<br />
*****ricrginko<br />
<br />
*****spatrgnetale<br />
****angiosperma, rulspati<br />
<br />
*****pavyterykotledona<br />
******sparagale<br />
<br />
*******sparago<br />
*******spatrxalio *<br />
<br />
********'''sunga'''<br />
********kamjysunga (''leek'')<br />
<br />
********'''sluni'''<br />
******spatrliliace<br />
<br />
*******'''tujli'''<br />
******glumiflora<br />
<br />
*******(l)junkace (''Juncaceae / rushes'')<br />
*******(l)spatrciperace<br />
<br />
********spatrskirpo (''Scirpus / bulrush'')<br />
********misryplespa<br />
<br />
********spatrle,oxari<br />
*******(l)'''srasu''' (''Poaceae'')<br />
<br />
********'''gurni'''<br />
********'''mavji''' (''Avena / oats'')<br />
<br />
********'''bavmi''' (''Hordeum / barley'')<br />
********'''zumri''' (''Zea / corn'')<br />
<br />
*********cilce zumri (''teosinte'')<br />
********'''sorgu''' (''Sorghum'')<br />
<br />
********pamsrasu<br />
*********gurnrtefi<br />
<br />
********bambusa (''bamboo'')<br />
********xagryspa (''Arundo / reed'')<br />
<br />
******(l)spatrzingiberace<br />
*******zingibero (''Zingiber / ginger'')<br />
<br />
*******kurkuma (''Curcuma / turmeric'')<br />
*******kardamomu<br />
<br />
*******zermbeto<br />
*******glangala<br />
<br />
******(l)'''badna''' (''Musaceae / bananas'')<br />
******(gl)bromeli<br />
<br />
*******rutrxananase<br />
*****relterykotledona<br />
<br />
******(l)spatrsolanace<br />
*******'''tamca''' (''Lycopersicon esculentum'')<br />
<br />
*******'''patlu''' (''Solanum tuberosum'')<br />
*******kapsiku (''Capsicum / bell and chili peppers'')<br />
<br />
*******mlongena (''Solanum melongena / brinjal, eggplant'')<br />
*******stramoni (''Stramonium / jimsonweed'')<br />
<br />
*******'''tanko''' (''Nicotiana / tobacco'')<br />
******(l)'''guzme''' (''Cucurbitaceae'')<br />
<br />
*******clazme (''Cucumis sativus / cucumber'')<br />
*******panjyzme (''Luffa / loofa'')<br />
<br />
*******guzrcitrulo (''Citrullus / watermelon'')<br />
*******kurbita (''Cucurbita / pumpkin, squash'')<br />
<br />
*******[[jbocre: najyzme|najyzme]] (''cantaloupe'')<br />
*******durzme (''winter melon'')<br />
<br />
******spatrfabale<br />
*******(l)spatrmimosace<br />
<br />
*******(l)spatrkaisalpiniace<br />
*******(l)spatrfabace (''Fabaceae'')<br />
<br />
********alfalfa<br />
********trifoli<br />
<br />
********'''dembi'''<br />
*********boldembi (''Pisum / pea'')<br />
<br />
*********derdembi (''Arachis / peanut'')<br />
*********lendembi (''Lens / lentil'')<br />
<br />
*********'''sobde'''<br />
*********dembrciceri (''garbanzo'')<br />
<br />
********debrloto (''Lotus'')<br />
********trigonela (''fenugreek'')<br />
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******(l)spatrkanabinace (''Cannabinaceae'')<br />
*******'''marna''' (''Cannabis / hemp'')<br />
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*******birjytsapi (''Humulus / hops'')<br />
******(l)kurtsapi, tebrulspa (''Lamiaceae, Labiatae'')<br />
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*******spatrsalvia<br />
********sevri'a spatrsalvia<br />
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*******spatrbasiliko<br />
*******spatrtimo<br />
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*******latfekspa<br />
*******spatrmenta<br />
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*******spatnrosmarino<br />
*******xarxune (''Marrubium'')<br />
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******(l)spatnrosace<br />
*******spatrmaloide<br />
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********'''plise'''<br />
********'''perli'''<br />
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********krataigo (''Crataegus / hawthorn'')<br />
*******spatnrosoide<br />
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********'''rozgu'''<br />
********fragari (''strawberry'')<br />
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********frambesi (''raspberry'')<br />
*******spatrmugdaloide<br />
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********ricrprunu (''Prunus'')<br />
*********flaume (''plum'')<br />
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*********mugdali (''almond'')<br />
*********persika (''peach'')<br />
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*********ricrceraso (''cherry'')<br />
******(l)spatrfagace<br />
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*******'''cindu'''<br />
******(l)spatrkomposita, spatrxasterace<br />
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*******tarksako (''Taraxacum / dandelion, koksaghIz'')<br />
*******laktuka / kobrlaktuka / spatrlaktuka (''Lactuca sativa / lettuce'')<br />
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********clapezli kobrlaktuka (''Lactuca sativa var. longifolia / Romaine Lettuce'')<br />
*******solxrula (''Helianthus / sunflower'')<br />
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********solxrula patlu (''H. tuberosus / Jerusalem artichoke'')<br />
*******xarcufu (''Cynara scolymus / artichoke'')<br />
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******(l)'''xruba''' (''Polygonaceae'')<br />
*******xrixruba (''buckwheat'')<br />
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******(l)spatrmalvace (''Malvaceae / mallows'')<br />
*******mapnyspa (''Gossypium'')<br />
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******(l)spatrxerikace (''Ericaceae / heaths'')<br />
*******arbutu<br />
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*******cribyjba (''Arctostaphylos / bearberry'')<br />
*******cpijba (''Ornithostaphylos'')<br />
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*******bakyjba (''Vaccinium / cowberry, lingonberry, blueberry, cranberry'')<br />
******(l)matlyspa (''Linaceae / flax'')<br />
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*******selplirai matlyspa (''Linum usitatissimum'')<br />
******(l)spatrsterkuliace (''Sterculiaceae'')<br />
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*******'''cakla'''<br />
*******sterkuli (''monkeynut'')<br />
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*******nargrkola<br />
******(l)spatrjuglandace<br />
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*******jglandi (''walnut'')<br />
*******nargrkaria (''pecan, hickory'')<br />
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******(l)spatrte,ace<br />
*******tcatyspa (''Camellia'')<br />
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******spatrsapindale<br />
*******ricrxacero<br />
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*******nargrpistaco<br />
*******(l)spatnrutace<br />
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********'''nimre''' (''Citrus'')<br />
*********branimre (''grapefruit'')<br />
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*********najnimre (''orange'')<br />
*********pelnimre (''lemon'')<br />
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*******(l)spatrnakardiace<br />
********nargrkaju<br />
<br />
********rutrmango<br />
********vindu skospa<br />
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*******(l)spatrmeliace<br />
********ma'agni<br />
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******(l)rulsantyspa (''Umbelliferae, Apiaceae / umbellifers'')<br />
*******spatrdauko<br />
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*******spatrxapi,o<br />
******spatrkaparale<br />
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*******(l)krucifera, brasikace<br />
********brasika<br />
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*********'''kobli''' (''Brassica oleracea / cabbage'')<br />
*********koblrsinapi<br />
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*********koblnrapa<br />
********spatnrafano (''Raphanus / radish'')<br />
<br />
********armoraci (''horseradish'')<br />
******(l)gunsyjmaspa (''Chenopodiaceae / goosefoot'')<br />
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*******spatrkinua (''Chenopodium quinoa'')<br />
*******spinaki<br />
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******(l)(j)xinlatna, bujlatna (''Nelumbonaceae: Nelumbo / lotus'')<br />
******(l)nimfaiace<br />
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*******(j)misrylatna (''Nymphaea / waterlily'')<br />
******(l)spatrlitrace (''Lythraceae / loosestrife'')<br />
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*******largectremia (''crape myrtle'')<br />
******(l)spatrmorace<br />
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*******'''figre''' (''Ficus / fig'')<br />
*******spatrmoro (''Morus / mulberry'')<br />
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******(l)spatnrubiace (''Rubiaceae'')<br />
*******kaftricu (''Coffea arabica'')<br />
<br />
*******ricrgardeni<br />
*******iksora<br />
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*******kinxona (''Cinchona / quinine'')<br />
*******[[jbocre: gambire|gambire]] (''Uncaria'')<br />
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[jbocre: * spatrxalio: so'i jutskepre cu klepu'i fi le se spatrliliace<br />
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Note:<br />
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* '''[[jbocre: latna|latna]]''' does not seem to be meant as a taxon name.<br />
* '''kobli''' can apparently be any leafy vegetable of various families (Chenopodiaceae, Asteraceae, Brassicaceae, etc.)<br />
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''Where does '''samcu''' ("cassava/taro/manioc/tapioca/yam [[jbocre: edible starchy root|edible starchy root]]") fit in here? Somewhere in '''spatrsolanace''' next to '''patlu''', perhaps? Or under various places like '''kobli'''? mi'e filip.''<br />
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*I'm not sure. The glosses are three different plants (''Manihot'' is a spurge (Euphorbiaceae, like the poinsettia), taro (''Colocasia'') is an arum, and yam (''Dioscorea'') is a yam), and then there's the sweet potato (''Ipomoea batatas'', same genus as morning glory) which I don't know whether to call samcu or patlu. In the etymology, two words (''yam'' and ''inhame'') are yams, two more sound like yams, and two I don't recognize. -phma<br />
**So it's a bit like '''kobli''' in that it defines things more by outward appearance rather than by cladistical affiliation?(And if we're simply going by "edibly starchy root", that definitely covers potatoes as well, doesn't it? In which case I suppose ''ro patlu cu samcu''. (Which would mean, incidentally, that sweet potatoes would be ''samcu'' and the question becomes merely whether they are '''also''' ''patlu''.]In which case I suppose '''samcu''' doesn't belong anywhere in this tree but perhaps rather in a footnote. mi'e filip.<br />
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***Potatoes are stems, not roots.<br />
****Ah -- my mistake. I didn't know that. mi'e filip.<br />
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***As to '''kobli''', all six words in the etymology mean some sort of Brassica, so I regard calling lettuce '''kobli''' as loosely speaking (and also radishes, since they aren't grown for leaves). -phma</div>
Gleki