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Robin's Palm Writings: Category: la nicte cadzu
==  THE LOJBAN MOO IS DEAD ==


Navigation: [[Robin's Palm Writings: la nicte cadzu|la nicte cadzu Index]] [[Robin's Palm Writings|Robin's Palm Writings: Top-Level Index]]
As Robin Lee Powell if you want details, but the short version is


ni'o mu pi re mo'o nu kurji
that it was always super-slow and the popularity wasn't enough to


.i la .susan. ca'o jgari la .deivid. ca pi ro lo nu xruti .i la .kim. sazri le karce mu'i tu'a lu mi nitcu lo nu gasnu li'u .i sy krici lo du'u la .axmed. ca'o terpa lo nu da'i vy ba xebni ri .i ku'i .a bu prije ca'o? smaji .i la .deivid. smaji klaku .i sy terpa kucli lo du'u da'i lo drata blupinxe cu na nelci lo nu sy noi cnino cu kurji vy .i ku'i sy ca'o kurji to'e mu'i nai lo nu terpa
justify the time to do a complete rewrite.


ni'o suksa bo sy cladu cusku lu le cukta cu mo li'u .i la .kim. cusku lu jelca zu'e mi se pi'o lo makfa li'u ju'e lu ki'e sai .kim. li'u .i sy di'a kurji vy
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ni'o sy ca lo nu le girzu cu xruti le dinju cu gidva vy le ckana kumfa po vy gi'e rivbi lo te preti .i la .kim. .e la .axmed. stali le citka kumfa mu'i lo nu spuda lo preti .i sy bapli lo nu vy citka gi'e ba zi bo vimcu lo se dasni gi'e te ckana .i sy ji'a te ckana gi'e jgari vy .i ba zi bo vy co'a mutce klaku
==  Introduction ==


ni'o sy ze'a bacru lo te xendo selsku .i ba zu bo sy ca lo nu vy mleca klaku cu cusku lu do cuxna lo drani lo'i xlali .i la .brai,an. cu bapli lo nu mi'o catra ri .i do pu ponse no drata xamgu te cuxna li'u ju'e lu ca le ba'e cabycta mi ponse no drata te cuxna .i ku'i pau nai xu mi ponse lo drata le purlamji nanca .a le vo moi purlamji nanca po lo nu by te preti lo se vlipa be mi li'u ju'e lu ma mukti lo nu do pu zu na ciksi li'u ju'e lu mi terpa lo nu by xlali pilno le se djuno li'u ju'e lu li'a cai do drani .i le nanmu poi kakne lo nu catra le panzi be ri cu kakne ju'o lo nu xlali pilno le djuno be lo blupinxe li'u ju'e lu .i ku'i mi ca lo nu ctuca by cu kakne lo nu zgana by .i la'a mi pu sidju by lo nu ca'o vrude li'u ju'e lu .i do na djuno la'e di'u .i ji'a xu by la'a curmi lo nu do di'i zgana by li'u ju'e lu .i .yy. .io la'a na go'i li'u
There is now a Lojban [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M MOO]; that is, a multi user virtual environment, kind of like the old text adventure games. One of the things we're trying to use it for is [[jbocre: xartum|xartum]]. To that end, we need people to come visit and {ALINK(aname=>prayer)}pray{ALINK} for or {ALINK(aname=>build,pagename=>Lojban MOO Lojban Commands)}build{ALINK} the things they want!


ni'o sy joi vy ze'a smaji vreta .i ba bo vy cusku lu mi pacna lo nu mi pu kakne lo nu sidju je badgau la .brai,an. li'u ju'e lu mi djuno .i mi gleki lo nu do pacna .i mu'i la'e di'u jarco lo nu do vrude .i lo nu kurji le bruna be do cu vrude je xendo .i mi nelci do mu 'i lo nu do vrude je xendo li'u ju'e lu ki'e .susan. do ji'a vrude je xendo .i ji'a do certu lo nu kurji li'u ju'e lu li'a sai mi xalka selfu li'u .i se mu'i re jgrai cu milxe cmila
===  How To Get Help ===


ni'o ba za bo sy cikna mu'i lo na se djuno .i sy ganse le li'i vy ti'a jgari sy re birka le cutne .i sy mutce nelci le ny vy jgari .i sy milxe suksa binxo co sanji le du'u pa xance be vy cu jgari pa tatru be sy .i ji'a sy ba'e mutce nelci la'e di'u .i sy sutra binxo lo ka cindji .i no da pu ze'u jgari le tutra .i ku'i sy na djica lo nu gasnu lo nu vy cikna .i ji'a sy terpa lo nu vy na djica lo nu vy joi sy cinse .i ji'a la'a to'e mu'i na lo nu vy cindji tu'a sy kei vy na djica lo nu cinse gasnu zi lo nu catra le bruna .i se ki'u bo sy smaji vreta gi'e mutce nelci le nu vy pencu
In Lojban, you can get a list of available commands at [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Lojban Commands|Lojban MOO Lojban Commands]].


ni'o ba zi bo sy pu lo nu za'u re'u sipna binxo cu ganse le li'i le pinji be vy cu jdari binxo ne'a le zargu be sy .i sy mutce nelci la'e di'u .i ku'i ca'o ku na djica lo nu vy cikna binxo .i ku'i nandu fa lo nu na se sance .i sy peisku lu la'a vy senva ra'u nai .i ka'u lo nanmu cu so'a roi lifri tu'a lo jdari pinji ca lo nu senva li'u .i ku'i ca le nu vy co'a sligau le tupyjanco se ri'a le nu vy catke pencu sy le pinji le zargu kevna kei sy na kakne lo nu ca'o smaji .i sy smaji ke cinse cmoni .i vy co'i se jenca vasxu ri'a le nu cikna binxo .i sy peisku lu .oi sai la'a lo nu frili ke cikna binxo cu vajni ke renvi se certu lo blupinxe .i ku'i .a'o sai vy na fengu li'u
If you're in English, you can use the in-MOO help system by typing "help".
 
In Lojban, you can use "sidju", but only one or two pages are translated.  You can use "mulsidju" to access the English help (although as of 19 July 2006, that is very slow).
 
Help can often be gotten on [[Lojban IRC|Lojban IRC]].
 
If you're really stuck, you can [[jbocre: ailto:[email protected] ail the MOO admin]].
 
For general information on MOOs and MUDs and so on, see [http://www.mudconnect.com/mudfaq/ he MUD FAQ] or [http://www.moo.mud.org/moo-faq/ he MOO FAQ].  In particular, [http://www.mudconnect.com/mudfaq/mudfaq-p1.html#q5 ow Do I Connect To A MUD], [http://www.mudconnect.com/mudfaq/mudfaq-p1.html#q7 ow that I'm connected, what do I do?], [http://www.mudconnect.com/mudfaq/mudfaq-p1.html#q14 hat common commands are used on MUDs?], [http://www.mudconnect.com/mudfaq/mudfaq-p2.html#q1 hat is a client?] and [http://www.mudconnect.com/mudfaq/mudfaq-p2.html#q5 hat different clients are avialable?].
 
====  Language Related Commands ====
 
;To switch to Lojban from English:language Lojban
 
;To switch to English from Lojban:bangu fa la gliban
 
;To list the available languages (there are only two):languages
 
;:ma bangu
 
===  Connecting To The MOO ===
 
====  Web-Based Connection ====
 
You can use the SSH applet loaded by
 
[http://mooix.lojban.org/ssh.html] to connect. 
 
Use the login "moo" if you don't have an account.  You will be logged in as a guest.  Commands are typed in the bottom-most part of the window.  Feel free to look around, although you are limited to using English as a guest.  Use the "register" command to make an account.  When you've done so and have completed the registration process, close the window, reload the Remote SSH Client page, and log in with your new information.
 
====  Connecting Using a Graphical Client In Windows ====
 
I'm assuming that this will be what most users will want to do. Please note that there is no security with this method; your password is being sent over the 'net in plain text.  You shouldn't use an important password on the MOO anyways.
 
First, find yourself a client.  If you ask [http://www.google.com/ oogle] for "windows mud client" you'll get lots of them, including [http://www.online-games.net/newmudclients.html ists] [http://www.mudconnect.com/resources/Mud_Resources:Mud_Clients.html f] [http://www.onlineroleplay.com/Text-Based_MUDs/MUD_Clients/Windows_95_And_Higher/ hem].  For reference, the one I picked (more or less at random, except that I wanted MCP support (don't worry about what that is unless you want to build lots of stuff] is [http://www.belfry.com/fuzzball/trebuchet/ rebuchet], and it's that that I'll be writing this with.  They should all be about the same, though.
 
Download or run the installer.  The installer itself is pretty simple.  Start the program (should be in Start -> Programs -> Trebuchet Tk). When Trebuchet starts, it'll ask if you want it to look for updates, and (if it finds an update) if you want to update it.  Say yes.  Restart if necessary.
 
Go to File -> New World... The world name can be whatever you want, although we've been calling it things like "samxarmuj" around [[Lojban IRC|Lojban IRC]].  Host name is "mooix.lojban.org".  The port is 7000.  It is not encrypted.  The type is "LP/Diku with GOAHEAD".  Unless you already have an account, leave the player name and password blank.  Leave everything else as it is.  Click "Add".  Go to File -> Connect World..., and select the world you just created.
 
You will be logged in as a guest.  Commands are typed in the bottom-most part of the window.  Feel free to look around, although you are limited to using English as a guest.  Use the "register" command to make an account. When you've done so and have completed the registration process, go to File -> Edit Worlds... and enter your userid and password information there.  Then go to File -> Disconnect World... followed by File -> Connect World... (or right-click on the box just above the typing area with the world's name in it and select Reconnect World...).  You should now be logged in as the user you created.
 
You will probably find the experience slightly less confusing if you turn command echoing on.  In TrebuchetTk this is done by going to Option -> Preferences, then the Input tab, then selecting "Echo commands to display".
 
====  Connecting With SSH In Windows ====
 
Get an SSH client; I suggest [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html uTTY] (get putty.exe from that link).  The host is mooix.lojban.org, and the port is 22 (the default for SSH).  The connection type must be SSH.  Log in as "moo".  Look around a bit.  Use the "register" command to create an account.  Exit the program and restart it.  Use the account name and password you just created.
 
====  Connecting With SSH On The Command Line ====
 
First, get an SSH client.  With most UNIX systems, and Mac OS X, this comes pre-installed.  You'll need to use a command line (aka terminal) window to access it.  The command to get an account is "ssh [email protected]".  Once you have an account, use "ssh [[jbocre: account|account]]@mooix.lojban.org".  Otherwise, follow the "Connecting With SSH In Windows" instructions above.
 
==  Rules And Etiquette ==
 
(very much incomplete)
 
* Objects with no Lojban translation annoy the Gods, and therefore run the risk of being exiled to BAI.  (We reserve the right to translate them instead, though.)
 
==  History ==
 
This is the history of the world from the point of view of samxarmuj itself.
 
===  Mythical History ===
 
No-one knows what was before the Gods came and re-made the world. But legend has it that an ancient civilization uploaded themselves into computers and sleep solipsistically beneath the sea. They created a logical language that hacks into root access in the fabric of reality... the kind of language which you could speak to a genie without fear of being misinterpreted...
 
===  The Beginning ===
 
There is a fire, but other than that there is no light and no breeze. A hill of sand rises out of a body of water which stretches into a pure, starless, and unreflective darkness to an unknown size. It might be outdoors or indoors.
 
This text floats in the air: {fi'i vitke be la co'i ve'e terzmiku .i .e'o ko rivbi lo nu cpedu lo rinka be lo dubna'e .i ki'e .i ko zanfri lo vitno .i mi'e le kurji} "Welcome to the Singularity. Kindly refrain from making requests that cause paradox. Thank you and have a nice eternity. - The Management."
 
===  The Gods ===
 
The Gods live beneath the sea, dreaming dreams beyond mortal ken.  They sometimes answer prayers, but they are both fickle and distracted by their own concerns.
 
===  Mutable Reality ===
 
The Gods permit the modification of reality according to their own
 
whims.  Their power over reality is vast, permitting them to create
 
regions that seem to be physically impossible.  They allow residents
 
to partake of their power for creation of whatever the resident
 
might desire, but they are fickle, and some times refuse a request
 
for no mortally discernable reason.
 
Residents can pray to the gods to fulfil their desires, or can use
 
complex Lojban utterances to magically create things on their own.
 
{ANAME()}prayer{ANAME}
 
====  Prayer ====
 
In English, use 'pray "..."' to request help.  In Lojban, see
 
[[jbocre: Lojban MOO Lojban Commands|Lojban MOO Lojban Commands]] for the exact command(s) to use.
 
The Gods are mostly helpful when asked questions or for general
 
help, but are somewhat more fickle when asked to create things.  It
 
seems that this takes time that the Gods would largely prefer to be
 
spending on their own ineffable contemplations.
 
The Gods never respond to any requests for changes or creation that
 
were uttered in anything but valid Lojban.  They will sometimes
 
respond to requests for general help in other languages.
 
====  Creation ====
 
See [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Lojban Commands|Lojban MOO Lojban Commands]] for builder commands.  The Gods
 
allow a great deal of freedom to those willing to learn the correct
 
Lojban incantations.
 
=====  Weak Points =====
 
Some places are more stable than others; that is, their creators or
 
the Gods have arranged so that some places cannot easily be
 
modified, thus providing some stability for the residents.  Within
 
these areas, the creation of new paths in and out of the area and
 
similar activites must be done by prayer.
 
To-do.
 
==  To-Do Lists/Bug Reporting ==
 
Put stuff here that you'd like to see or that you know needs work.
 
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO General Bugs|Lojban MOO General Bugs]]
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Translation-Related Bugs|Lojban MOO Translation-Related Bugs]] -- anything having to do with translation functionality
 
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Dubious Translations|Lojban MOO Dubious Translations]] -- Already made translations of locations/objects/etc seeming dubious
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Untranslated Messages|Lojban MOO Untranslated Messages]] -- if you're in Lojban and you see something in English, it goes here
 
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Feature Requests|Lojban MOO Feature Requests]]
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Help Files Translations|Lojban MOO Help Files Translations]] -- if there's a particular help file you'd like to see translated
 
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Prayers|Lojban MOO Prayers]] -- this is a dumping ground for prayers users pray in the MOO.  Non-gods should feel free to help out, too
 
==  Related Pages ==
 
* [[jbocre: xartum|xartum]]
* [[jbocre: Helping With Translating The Lojban MOO|Helping With Translating The Lojban MOO]]
 
* [[jbocre: Lojban MOO Multilingual Parser Theoretical Capabilities|Lojban MOO Multilingual Parser Theoretical Capabilities]]
* [[jbocre: MMORPG|MMORPG]]

Revision as of 17:16, 4 November 2013

THE LOJBAN MOO IS DEAD

As Robin Lee Powell if you want details, but the short version is

that it was always super-slow and the popularity wasn't enough to

justify the time to do a complete rewrite.

{maketoc}

Introduction

There is now a Lojban MOO; that is, a multi user virtual environment, kind of like the old text adventure games. One of the things we're trying to use it for is xartum. To that end, we need people to come visit and {ALINK(aname=>prayer)}pray{ALINK} for or {ALINK(aname=>build,pagename=>Lojban MOO Lojban Commands)}build{ALINK} the things they want!

How To Get Help

In Lojban, you can get a list of available commands at Lojban MOO Lojban Commands.

If you're in English, you can use the in-MOO help system by typing "help".

In Lojban, you can use "sidju", but only one or two pages are translated. You can use "mulsidju" to access the English help (although as of 19 July 2006, that is very slow).

Help can often be gotten on Lojban IRC.

If you're really stuck, you can jbocre: ailto:[email protected] ail the MOO admin.

For general information on MOOs and MUDs and so on, see he MUD FAQ or he MOO FAQ. In particular, ow Do I Connect To A MUD, ow that I'm connected, what do I do?, hat common commands are used on MUDs?, hat is a client? and hat different clients are avialable?.

Language Related Commands

To switch to Lojban from English
language Lojban
To switch to English from Lojban
bangu fa la gliban
To list the available languages (there are only two)
languages
ma bangu

Connecting To The MOO

Web-Based Connection

You can use the SSH applet loaded by

[1] to connect.

Use the login "moo" if you don't have an account. You will be logged in as a guest. Commands are typed in the bottom-most part of the window. Feel free to look around, although you are limited to using English as a guest. Use the "register" command to make an account. When you've done so and have completed the registration process, close the window, reload the Remote SSH Client page, and log in with your new information.

Connecting Using a Graphical Client In Windows

I'm assuming that this will be what most users will want to do. Please note that there is no security with this method; your password is being sent over the 'net in plain text. You shouldn't use an important password on the MOO anyways.

First, find yourself a client. If you ask oogle for "windows mud client" you'll get lots of them, including ists f hem. For reference, the one I picked (more or less at random, except that I wanted MCP support (don't worry about what that is unless you want to build lots of stuff] is rebuchet, and it's that that I'll be writing this with. They should all be about the same, though.

Download or run the installer. The installer itself is pretty simple. Start the program (should be in Start -> Programs -> Trebuchet Tk). When Trebuchet starts, it'll ask if you want it to look for updates, and (if it finds an update) if you want to update it. Say yes. Restart if necessary.

Go to File -> New World... The world name can be whatever you want, although we've been calling it things like "samxarmuj" around Lojban IRC. Host name is "mooix.lojban.org". The port is 7000. It is not encrypted. The type is "LP/Diku with GOAHEAD". Unless you already have an account, leave the player name and password blank. Leave everything else as it is. Click "Add". Go to File -> Connect World..., and select the world you just created.

You will be logged in as a guest. Commands are typed in the bottom-most part of the window. Feel free to look around, although you are limited to using English as a guest. Use the "register" command to make an account. When you've done so and have completed the registration process, go to File -> Edit Worlds... and enter your userid and password information there. Then go to File -> Disconnect World... followed by File -> Connect World... (or right-click on the box just above the typing area with the world's name in it and select Reconnect World...). You should now be logged in as the user you created.

You will probably find the experience slightly less confusing if you turn command echoing on. In TrebuchetTk this is done by going to Option -> Preferences, then the Input tab, then selecting "Echo commands to display".

Connecting With SSH In Windows

Get an SSH client; I suggest uTTY (get putty.exe from that link). The host is mooix.lojban.org, and the port is 22 (the default for SSH). The connection type must be SSH. Log in as "moo". Look around a bit. Use the "register" command to create an account. Exit the program and restart it. Use the account name and password you just created.

Connecting With SSH On The Command Line

First, get an SSH client. With most UNIX systems, and Mac OS X, this comes pre-installed. You'll need to use a command line (aka terminal) window to access it. The command to get an account is "ssh [email protected]". Once you have an account, use "ssh account@mooix.lojban.org". Otherwise, follow the "Connecting With SSH In Windows" instructions above.

Rules And Etiquette

(very much incomplete)

  • Objects with no Lojban translation annoy the Gods, and therefore run the risk of being exiled to BAI. (We reserve the right to translate them instead, though.)

History

This is the history of the world from the point of view of samxarmuj itself.

Mythical History

No-one knows what was before the Gods came and re-made the world. But legend has it that an ancient civilization uploaded themselves into computers and sleep solipsistically beneath the sea. They created a logical language that hacks into root access in the fabric of reality... the kind of language which you could speak to a genie without fear of being misinterpreted...

The Beginning

There is a fire, but other than that there is no light and no breeze. A hill of sand rises out of a body of water which stretches into a pure, starless, and unreflective darkness to an unknown size. It might be outdoors or indoors.

This text floats in the air: {fi'i vitke be la co'i ve'e terzmiku .i .e'o ko rivbi lo nu cpedu lo rinka be lo dubna'e .i ki'e .i ko zanfri lo vitno .i mi'e le kurji} "Welcome to the Singularity. Kindly refrain from making requests that cause paradox. Thank you and have a nice eternity. - The Management."

The Gods

The Gods live beneath the sea, dreaming dreams beyond mortal ken. They sometimes answer prayers, but they are both fickle and distracted by their own concerns.

Mutable Reality

The Gods permit the modification of reality according to their own

whims. Their power over reality is vast, permitting them to create

regions that seem to be physically impossible. They allow residents

to partake of their power for creation of whatever the resident

might desire, but they are fickle, and some times refuse a request

for no mortally discernable reason.

Residents can pray to the gods to fulfil their desires, or can use

complex Lojban utterances to magically create things on their own.

{ANAME()}prayer{ANAME}

Prayer

In English, use 'pray "..."' to request help. In Lojban, see

Lojban MOO Lojban Commands for the exact command(s) to use.

The Gods are mostly helpful when asked questions or for general

help, but are somewhat more fickle when asked to create things. It

seems that this takes time that the Gods would largely prefer to be

spending on their own ineffable contemplations.

The Gods never respond to any requests for changes or creation that

were uttered in anything but valid Lojban. They will sometimes

respond to requests for general help in other languages.

Creation

See Lojban MOO Lojban Commands for builder commands. The Gods

allow a great deal of freedom to those willing to learn the correct

Lojban incantations.

Weak Points

Some places are more stable than others; that is, their creators or

the Gods have arranged so that some places cannot easily be

modified, thus providing some stability for the residents. Within

these areas, the creation of new paths in and out of the area and

similar activites must be done by prayer.

To-do.

To-Do Lists/Bug Reporting

Put stuff here that you'd like to see or that you know needs work.

  • Lojban MOO Prayers -- this is a dumping ground for prayers users pray in the MOO. Non-gods should feel free to help out, too

Related Pages