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{{jvs|spero}}, an [[experimental gismu|unofficial]] gismu for '[[Esperanto|Esperanto]]'.
{{jvs|spero}}, a [[gismu]] for referencing the language and culture of [[Esperanto]]
 
First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by [[John Cowan]]: <ref>http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9012/msg00009.html</ref>, rejected at Logfest 91<ref>http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00127.html</ref>.
 
*[[User:Cyril Slobin|kir]]:
*:According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of [[The Book|The Book]], fu'ivla '''spe'ato''' can be used instead. How do you like this?
**[[Jay Kominek|Jay]]:
**:'''spe'anto''' is better, IMO.
***[[User:Cyril Slobin| kir]]'':
***:But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla!
****[[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]:
****:This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind '''bangrnesperanto'''.
***Maybe '''banrsperanto'''? Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book.
****???!!! How is it not canonical? Fine: "not the default strategy suggested."
*[[.kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]:
*:'''spero''' all the way!
*[[User:tsali|tsali]]:
*:Well, I'm in favour of '''[[pacnybau]]'''.
*xod:
*:Since I think we need to jettison all [[cultural gismu]] (except '''lojbo''') and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception!
**Read more [[The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|here]].
*[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]:
*:pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[Boo to cultural gismu]].
*[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]:
*:The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful.

Latest revision as of 10:01, 25 September 2014

spero, a gismu for referencing the language and culture of Esperanto