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Could lojban be used as a programming language?
  
To paste what I just said in IRC, I'm thinking a set of questions which test a variety of Lojban topics. attitudes, name construction, lujvo construction, place tags, tanru, logical connectives, etc. and grading the testee at a particular level.
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Has anything been done along those lines?
  
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If so, this is the page to collect that kind of information.
  
I absolutely agree that we should have some proficiency tests. In fact the more specific we get with graded levels the better, IMHO. And what I'm about to describe doesn't really qualify at allBut I thought I'd mention, since it's one related idea. Daniel Brockman once challenged me to see if I knew all of the cmavo of the form CV-- you can go through them in your head, because of the regularity: ba be bi bo bu, ca ce ci co cu, da de di do du, etc. At the time I only missed one-- I forget which one, but I remember that Daniel also had only one missing, and his was "ki". <3, selkik
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==References==
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*Brook Conner messages:
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**http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/1466
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**http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/1532
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**http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/1484
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*Prolog semantic analyser written by [[User:Nick Nicholas|la nitcion]] (still doesn't allow Lojban words to act as code)
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**http://www.lojban.org/files/software/analyser
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==Discussion==
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*[[rab.spir|rab.spir]]:
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**I believe that using mekso, a few cmavo, and an interpreter which would understand them, you would already have a simple programming language.
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===Lojban Shell (lsh)===
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Should we use a CPU instead of a shell as an analogy? Lojban Virtual Machine? With existence registers '''da''', '''de''', '''di'''. And reference registers '''ko'a''' through '''fo'u'''.
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=== [[samtrosku specification|Samtrosku, the specification]] ===
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*[[rab.spir|rab.spir]]:
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**I started working on a specification for what a Lojban-based computer language would be like a while ago. The recent discussion on the list has prompted me to work some more on it and post it.
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*[[Adam|Adam]]:
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**Could someone please explain what the point of this is? Why is Lojban a better basis for a programming language than English? The subset of English used in programming languages is just as unambiguous as the subset of Lojban to be used would be.
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*rizen:
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**Using English as a programming language would require a horrible mangling of the grammar just to be able to use it effectively. Also, lojban can say things that are of interest to mathematicians and programmers in fewer words than English can, just to begin with.
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*jay:
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**Cause people want to do it. (And no, the 'subset' of English used in programming languages has nothing to do with the grammar, just words being connected to related concepts. Programming with Lojban would make use of the grammar, also).
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**"Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute." - Abelson &amp; Sussman, SICP, preface to the first edition.
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*avr:
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**English is ok as a base for a programming language for a very limited subset of real world; maybe lojban could be better in fields such as artificial intelligence,interacting with humans, processing and understanding writings and orders because unambiguity.
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*ShaeErisson:
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**Read this for my reasoning: http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?SpokenProgramming

Latest revision as of 07:48, 24 November 2015

Could lojban be used as a programming language?

Has anything been done along those lines?

If so, this is the page to collect that kind of information.

References

Discussion

  • rab.spir:
    • I believe that using mekso, a few cmavo, and an interpreter which would understand them, you would already have a simple programming language.

Lojban Shell (lsh)

Should we use a CPU instead of a shell as an analogy? Lojban Virtual Machine? With existence registers da, de, di. And reference registers ko'a through fo'u.

Samtrosku, the specification

  • rab.spir:
    • I started working on a specification for what a Lojban-based computer language would be like a while ago. The recent discussion on the list has prompted me to work some more on it and post it.
  • Adam:
    • Could someone please explain what the point of this is? Why is Lojban a better basis for a programming language than English? The subset of English used in programming languages is just as unambiguous as the subset of Lojban to be used would be.
  • rizen:
    • Using English as a programming language would require a horrible mangling of the grammar just to be able to use it effectively. Also, lojban can say things that are of interest to mathematicians and programmers in fewer words than English can, just to begin with.
  • jay:
    • Cause people want to do it. (And no, the 'subset' of English used in programming languages has nothing to do with the grammar, just words being connected to related concepts. Programming with Lojban would make use of the grammar, also).
    • "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute." - Abelson & Sussman, SICP, preface to the first edition.
  • avr:
    • English is ok as a base for a programming language for a very limited subset of real world; maybe lojban could be better in fields such as artificial intelligence,interacting with humans, processing and understanding writings and orders because unambiguity.
  • ShaeErisson: