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Without qualification, refers to the article ''[http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/File:Scientific_American_Loglan_Article,_by_James_Cooke_Brown.pdf Loglan]'' written by [[James Cooke Brown]], and published in Scientific American in June 1960.
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== Welcome to Lojban's wiki==


People who wish to read it, can borrow it from a reasonably large library, or they can ask [[TLI|TLI]] to send them a copy. That's how [[tsali|I]] got it. That was in [[year1997|1997]], but if they have any copies left, they probably still mail them out for free to anyone who asks for them.
Lojban is a very carefully constructed spoken language designed in the hope of removing a large portion of the ambiguity from human communication. It was made well-known by a [[Scientific American article]] and references in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress#Influence%7Cscience fiction] Lojban has been built over five decades by dozens of workers and hundreds of supporters.


It is currently available for downloading from this wiki: ''[http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/File:Scientific_American_Loglan_Article,_by_James_Cooke_Brown.pdf Loglan].''
Lojban has a number of features which make it unique:


=== Notable things about the description of Loglan as given in the article ===
*Lojban is designed to be used by people in '''communication''' with each other, and possibly in the future with computers.
The reason that the CV templates of the Loglan words turned out the way we all know and love, is not given. It only says: "The reader is challenged to find a combination of possible word-forms that does not resolve."
*Lojban is designed to be '''culturally neutral'''.
*Lojban has an '''unambiguous grammar''', which is based on the '''principles of logic'''.
*Lojban has '''phonetic spelling''', and unambiguous resolution of sounds into words.
*Lojban is '''simple''' compared to natural languages; it is easy to learn.
*Lojban's '''1300 root words''' can be easily combined to form a vocabulary of '''millions of words'''.
*Lojban is regular; the rules of the language are '''without exception'''.
*Lojban attempts to '''remove restrictions''' on creative and clear thought and communication.
*Lojban has a '''variety of uses''', ranging from the creative to the scientific, from the theoretical to the practical.


The "little words" ([[jbocre: cmavo|cmavo]]) are unified as a class only semantically, not morphologically (phonotactically). The word classes preceding predicates (simple predicates (our gismu) and complex predicates (our lujvo)) were as follows:
Interested? See and hear an [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEtnpdm7kI%7C example of spoken Lojban]. You can also see this page <span style="color:#ff0000">[[la lojban. mo|written in Lojban]]</span>.
* Connectives: '''V''' (the article actually says ".V", but this is probably a typo; nothing is mentioned of obligatory pauses in front of vowel-initial words, the period isn't used in this way anywhere else in the article, and as far as I can tell, this use of the period is strictly a Lojban innovation)
* Indicators: '''VV'''
* Operators
** Simple operators: '''CV'''
** Sentential operators: '''CVV'''
** Compound operators: '''CV'CV''' (the article consistently uses an apostrophe '''after''' a syllable to indicate stress, this is probably what is intended here)


The Loglan text that occurs in the tables in the article is written in all capitals, but the examples that occur inside the running text, is written in the [[Standard Average European|SAE]] orthography that is common both to natural languages that use latinate scripts, and Loglan of today. Still, there is some talk about audiovisual isomorphism, and
[[Learning|Learn Lojban now]] or read the [[Lojban Introductory Brochure|introductory brochure]] for a more detailed description of Lojban.
Loglan's "spoken punctuation" operators.


Most indicators (our attitudinals) were irrealis. In fact, there is a theoretical possibility that ALL of them were irrealis. If we entertain the possibility that even "ui" (our ".ui") turns a predicate into a non-claim, that does not entail that it turns it into a claim of the opposite.
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The only example of borrowing of vowel-final names, Mississippi, which becomes "lu misisipis", displays the addition of an ''s'' in the end, which is now the de facto standard of creating such names in Lojban (though not governed by any rules).
 
=== Things I don't understand about the Loglan description ===
* The word ''nu'' is glossed as "un- [also passive voice of two-place predicates]". Does this mean that Loglan has or had a word that can mean both ''to'e'' and ''se''?
** Not quite.  As I recall, the example in JCB's head was a word (damn, I wish I could remember which) whose passive was in effect a opposite.  And then he generalized, as often. The mess was cleared up (by pointing to a few other words, I suppose) long before the first version of Loglan 1 was cut.  The SA article is very crude: even the vocab was not yet thoroughly worked out (eternal {blanu} notwithstanding)and the selection of cmavo was heavily influenced by typesetting, for some reason.
** Sometimes ''to'e'' and ''se'' have a similar effect in Lojban: ''to'e zunle'' = ''se zunle'' = ''pritu''.
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Welcome to Lojban's wiki

Lojban is a very carefully constructed spoken language designed in the hope of removing a large portion of the ambiguity from human communication. It was made well-known by a Scientific American article and references in fiction Lojban has been built over five decades by dozens of workers and hundreds of supporters.

Lojban has a number of features which make it unique:

  • Lojban is designed to be used by people in communication with each other, and possibly in the future with computers.
  • Lojban is designed to be culturally neutral.
  • Lojban has an unambiguous grammar, which is based on the principles of logic.
  • Lojban has phonetic spelling, and unambiguous resolution of sounds into words.
  • Lojban is simple compared to natural languages; it is easy to learn.
  • Lojban's 1300 root words can be easily combined to form a vocabulary of millions of words.
  • Lojban is regular; the rules of the language are without exception.
  • Lojban attempts to remove restrictions on creative and clear thought and communication.
  • Lojban has a variety of uses, ranging from the creative to the scientific, from the theoretical to the practical.

Interested? See and hear an example of spoken Lojban. You can also see this page written in Lojban.

Learn Lojban now or read the introductory brochure for a more detailed description of Lojban.

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