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{{See_also|currently proposed experimental cmavo}}


See also [[jbocre: Currently proposed experimental cmavo|Currently proposed experimental cmavo]].
{{cmavo|cau'e|COI|vocative: comforting noise made toward infants (suggested by [[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]])}}
 
* [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] think '''ki'ai''' + some appropriate sound would be more appropriate here, in that it it is a solution that generalizes to other quasi-vocatives.
;'''[[jbocre: cau'e|cau'e]]''' [[jbocre: COI|COI]] vocative: comforting noise made toward infants (suggested by [[jbocre: Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]])
{{cmavo|ci'a|BAI|as written by: ciska modal, 1st place, as written by source}}
 
*Why isn't '''cu'u''' good enough? Isn't '''ciska''' a type of '''cusku?'''
* [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] think ''ki'ai'' + some appropriate sound would be more appropriate here, in that it it is a solution that generalizes to other quasi-vocatives.
{{cmavo|fai'i|FA|Function similar to '''fai'''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]}}
 
{{cmavo|jai'i|SE|Function similar to '''jai'''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]}}
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{{cmavo|ki'i'o|KI|Synonym for '''ki'''}}
 
{{cmavo|sa'ai|SA|next word begins nonstandard construction.: (Hopefully this stops the sentence from being parsed.): (proposed by but not endorsed by AndR)}}
;'''[[jbocre: ci'a|ci'a]]''' [[BAI|BAI]] as written by: ciska modal, 1st place, as written by source
{{cmavo|xa'a|XAhA|abstract to concrete converter: converts abstractions into concrete sumti, inverse of '''tu'a'''}}
 
*Doesnt {{vlapoi|le|su'u|do}} what you want?
''Why isn't cu'u good enough? Isn't ciska a type of cusku?''
**[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]:
 
**: I've no idea. Go read the messages where Djer proposed it.
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{{cmavo|xe'e1|PA|any}}
 
{{cmavo|xi'i3|XI|degree of [[Fuzzy Logic|Fuzzy Logic]] truth}}
;'''[[jbocre: fai'i|fai'i]]''' [[jbocre: FA|FA]] :Function similar to ''fai''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]
*I think they also call this '''jei'''
 
{{cmavo|xoi|ROI|means the same as [[JAhA + CAI|ja'axi]], discovered in [http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter19.html#e6d12 The book] after I ([[User:xod|(xod]]) invented [[xoi|xoi]]}}
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{{cmavo|xoi|???|abbreviation for '''lo'e du'u''' or conceivably '''tu'o su'u'''}}
 
;'''[[jbocre: jai'i|jai'i]]''' [[jbocre: SE|SE]] :Function similar to ''jai''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]
 
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;'''[[jbocre: ki'i'o|ki'i'o]]''' [[jbocre: KI|KI]]: Synonym for {ki}
 
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;'''[[jbocre: sa'ai|sa'ai]]''' [[jbocre: SA|SA]] next word begins nonstandard construction.: (Hopefully this stops the sentence from being parsed.): (proposed by but not endorsed by AndR)
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xa'a|xa'a]]''' [[jbocre: XAhA|XAhA]] abstract to concrete converter: converts abstractions into concrete sumti, inverse of [[jbocre: tu'a|tu'a]]
 
''Doesnt le su'u do what you want?''
 
* I've no idea. Go read the messages where Djer proposed it. --mi'e And.
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xe'e1]]''' [[jbocre: PA|PA]] any:
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xi'i3]]''' [[jbocre: XI|XI]] degree of [[jbocre: Fuzzy Logic|Fuzzy Logic]] truth:
 
''I think they also call this '''jei'''''
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xoi|xoi]]''' [[jbocre: ROI|ROI]]: means the same as [[jbocre: JAhA + CAI a'axi|JAhA + CAI a'axi]], discovered in [http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter19.html#e6d12 he book] after I ([[User:xod|(xod]]) invented [[jbocre: xoi|xoi]].
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xoi2 oi]]''' [[jbocre: ???]]: abbreviation for ''lo'e du'u'' or conceivably ''tu'o su'u''
 
* Moved to Obsolete Experimental Cmavo because it is incompatible with the baseline. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]
* Moved to Obsolete Experimental Cmavo because it is incompatible with the baseline. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]
 
{{cmavo|xo'o|XOhU|means the same as [[xe'e]]nai}}
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*You really want to fill up '''x'''-cmavo space don't you? What is wrong with {{vlapoi|xe'enai}} or {{vlapoi|na|xe'e}}?
 
{{cmavo|xo'u|XOhU|high scope mark: marks the following word as going to the start of the prenex at the start of the sentence. '''xe'enai''', conversely, notes that the following word does <u>not</u> got to the start of the prenex.}}
;'''[[jbocre: xo'o|xo'o]]''' [[jbocre: XOhU|XOhU]]: means the same as [[jbocre: xe'e|xe'e]]nai
*But what might actually be useful is a way to start a prenex at some place else in the sentence, resembling the English usage of listing undefined variables in a sentence and ending with a clause that says "where x=5 and r=2.3".
 
{{cmavo|xu'u|LUhU|[[xa'a|xa'a1]] terminator}}
''You really want to fill up x-cmavo space don't you? What is wrong with xe'enai or na xe'e?''
{{cmavo|zi'oi|SE|indicates that one or more argument places are annulled (proposed by [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]])}}
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xo'u|xo'u]]''' [[jbocre: XOhU|XOhU]] high scope mark: marks the following word as going to the start of the prenex at the start of the sentence. '''xe'enai''', conversely, notes that the following word does ''not'' got to the start of the prenex.
 
''But what might actually be useful is a way to start a prenex at some place else in the sentence, resembling the English usage of listing undefined variables in a sentence and ending with a clause that says "where x=5 and r=2.3".''
 
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;'''[[jbocre: xu'u|xu'u]]''' [[jbocre: LUhU|LUhU]] [[jbocre: xa'a1]] terminator:
 
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;'''[[jbocre: zi'oi|zi'oi]]''' [[jbocre: SE|SE]]: indicates that one or more argument places are annulled.: (proposed by AndR.)
 
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Latest revision as of 08:18, 30 June 2018

cau'e [COI] particle: vocative: comforting noise made toward infants (suggested by Jordan DeLong)
  • And Rosta think ki'ai + some appropriate sound would be more appropriate here, in that it it is a solution that generalizes to other quasi-vocatives.
ci'a [BAI] particle: as written by: ciska modal, 1st place, as written by source
  • Why isn't cu'u good enough? Isn't ciska a type of cusku?
fai'i [FA] particle: Function similar to fai. And Rosta
jai'i [SE] particle: Function similar to jai. And Rosta
ki'i'o [KI] particle: Synonym for ki
sa'ai [SA] particle: next word begins nonstandard construction.: (Hopefully this stops the sentence from being parsed.): (proposed by but not endorsed by AndR)
xa'a [XAhA] particle: abstract to concrete converter: converts abstractions into concrete sumti, inverse of tu'a
  • Doesnt le su'u do what you want?
    • And Rosta:
      I've no idea. Go read the messages where Djer proposed it.
xe'e1 [PA] particle: any
xi'i3 [XI] particle: degree of Fuzzy Logic truth
  • I think they also call this jei
xoi [ROI] particle: means the same as ja'axi, discovered in The book after I ((xod) invented xoi
xoi [???] particle: abbreviation for lo'e du'u or conceivably tu'o su'u
  • Moved to Obsolete Experimental Cmavo because it is incompatible with the baseline. --And Rosta
xo'o [XOhU] particle: means the same as xe'enai
  • You really want to fill up x-cmavo space don't you? What is wrong with xe'enai or na xe'e?
xo'u [XOhU] particle: high scope mark: marks the following word as going to the start of the prenex at the start of the sentence. xe'enai, conversely, notes that the following word does not got to the start of the prenex.
  • But what might actually be useful is a way to start a prenex at some place else in the sentence, resembling the English usage of listing undefined variables in a sentence and ending with a clause that says "where x=5 and r=2.3".
xu'u [LUhU] particle: xa'a1 terminator
zi'oi [SE] particle: indicates that one or more argument places are annulled (proposed by And Rosta)