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{{See_also|currently proposed experimental cmavo}}


Various public-domain Lojban wordlists, including:
{{cmavo|cau'e|COI|vocative: comforting noise made toward infants (suggested by [[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]])}}
 
* [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] think '''ki'ai''' + some appropriate sound would be more appropriate here, in that it it is a solution that generalizes to other quasi-vocatives.
* The current authoritative lists of [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo.txt cmavo], [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu.txt gismu], and [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/rafsi.txt rafsi].
{{cmavo|ci'a|BAI|as written by: ciska modal, 1st place, as written by source}}
* The same gismu list sorted into [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu_english_order.txt English keyword order].
*Why isn't '''cu'u''' good enough? Isn't '''ciska''' a type of '''cusku?'''
 
{{cmavo|fai'i|FA|Function similar to '''fai'''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]}}
* The gismu list, with hyperlinks, can be found [http://jbotcan.org/gismulinked.html here] and [http://lojbo.org/gismu.html here].
{{cmavo|jai'i|SE|Function similar to '''jai'''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]}}
* A [http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/cnino_pixra_bo_liste_loi_gismu picture dictionary] with more than half of the gismu presented in pictures.
{{cmavo|ki'i'o|KI|Synonym for '''ki'''}}
 
{{cmavo|sa'ai|SA|next word begins nonstandard construction.: (Hopefully this stops the sentence from being parsed.): (proposed by but not endorsed by AndR)}}
* The cmavo list sorted in [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo_selmaho_order.txt selma'o order].
{{cmavo|xa'a|XAhA|abstract to concrete converter: converts abstractions into concrete sumti, inverse of '''tu'a'''}}
* Four versions of the current lujvo list: [http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/NORALUJV.txt current], [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/lujvo.txt old], [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/lujvo_old.txt older], and [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/lujvo_ancient.txt ancient].
*Doesnt {{vlapoi|le|su'u|do}} what you want?
 
**[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]:
* The list of [[jbocre: Untranslated Words|words, requiring translation]]
**: I've no idea. Go read the messages where Djer proposed it.
* A translation of the gismu list into [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu_spanish.txt Spanish].
{{cmavo|xe'e1|PA|any}}
 
{{cmavo|xi'i3|XI|degree of [[Fuzzy Logic|Fuzzy Logic]] truth}}
* [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/frequencies.txt Frequencies] of words in Lojban text. (large file: >1 megabyte)
*I think they also call this '''jei'''
* A file of [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/oblique_keywords.txt keywords for oblique places] of gismu (all other than x1).
{{cmavo|xoi|ROI|means the same as [[JAhA + CAI|ja'axi]], discovered in [http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter19.html#e6d12 The book] after I ([[User:xod|(xod]]) invented [[xoi|xoi]]}}
 
{{cmavo|xoi|???|abbreviation for '''lo'e du'u''' or conceivably '''tu'o su'u'''}}
* A mapping between [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/oldlog.txt old Loglan prims] and Lojban gismu.
* Moved to Obsolete Experimental Cmavo because it is incompatible with the baseline. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]
* [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/roget.txt Roget's Thesaurus] codes for Lojban gismu (roget).
{{cmavo|xo'o|XOhU|means the same as [[xe'e]]nai}}
 
*You really want to fill up '''x'''-cmavo space don't you? What is wrong with {{vlapoi|xe'enai}} or {{vlapoi|na|xe'e}}?
* The [http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/public_domain.txt public domain declaration] for these materials.
{{cmavo|xo'u|XOhU|high scope mark: marks the following word as going to the start of the prenex at the start of the sentence. '''xe'enai''', conversely, notes that the following word does <u>not</u> got to the start of the prenex.}}
 
*But what might actually be useful is a way to start a prenex at some place else in the sentence, resembling the English usage of listing undefined variables in a sentence and ending with a clause that says "where x=5 and r=2.3".
See also the [[jbocre: Old Draft Dictionary|Old Draft Dictionary]] for additional current wordlists.
{{cmavo|xu'u|LUhU|[[xa'a|xa'a1]] terminator}}
{{cmavo|zi'oi|SE|indicates that one or more argument places are annulled (proposed by [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]])}}

Latest revision as of 08:18, 30 June 2018

See also: currently proposed experimental cmavo
cau'e [COI] particle: vocative: comforting noise made toward infants (suggested by Jordan DeLong)
  • And Rosta think ki'ai + some appropriate sound would be more appropriate here, in that it it is a solution that generalizes to other quasi-vocatives.
ci'a [BAI] particle: as written by: ciska modal, 1st place, as written by source
  • Why isn't cu'u good enough? Isn't ciska a type of cusku?
fai'i [FA] particle: Function similar to fai. And Rosta
jai'i [SE] particle: Function similar to jai. And Rosta
ki'i'o [KI] particle: Synonym for ki
sa'ai [SA] particle: next word begins nonstandard construction.: (Hopefully this stops the sentence from being parsed.): (proposed by but not endorsed by AndR)
xa'a [XAhA] particle: abstract to concrete converter: converts abstractions into concrete sumti, inverse of tu'a
  • Doesnt le su'u do what you want?
    • And Rosta:
      I've no idea. Go read the messages where Djer proposed it.
xe'e1 [PA] particle: any
xi'i3 [XI] particle: degree of Fuzzy Logic truth
  • I think they also call this jei
xoi [ROI] particle: means the same as ja'axi, discovered in The book after I ((xod) invented xoi
xoi [???] particle: abbreviation for lo'e du'u or conceivably tu'o su'u
  • Moved to Obsolete Experimental Cmavo because it is incompatible with the baseline. --And Rosta
xo'o [XOhU] particle: means the same as xe'enai
  • You really want to fill up x-cmavo space don't you? What is wrong with xe'enai or na xe'e?
xo'u [XOhU] particle: high scope mark: marks the following word as going to the start of the prenex at the start of the sentence. xe'enai, conversely, notes that the following word does not got to the start of the prenex.
  • But what might actually be useful is a way to start a prenex at some place else in the sentence, resembling the English usage of listing undefined variables in a sentence and ending with a clause that says "where x=5 and r=2.3".
xu'u [LUhU] particle: xa'a1 terminator
zi'oi [SE] particle: indicates that one or more argument places are annulled (proposed by And Rosta)
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