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Nalgol is the language by Jim Carter aiming "to improve a minor point in [[Loglan]]" by totally redoing a mass of major design features.


Nalgol is the language "to improve a minor point in [[Loglan|Loglan]]" by totally redoing a mass of major design features.  The original one was, I think, Jim Carter's back in the late 70s. ''(It was. --[[John Cowan|John Cowan]])''  We haven't had occasion to mention this typical constructed language phenomenon in Lojban much since the base-lining (and before it was part of the process), but recently there seems to have been a spate of ever more aggressive cases which now seem to call the word back into use.  Or should we shift to Nabjol? I think not; the chance to shoot at the languages of the 60s and 70s is still too good to pass by.
Nalgol was a prt of the following evolution: Loglan > Nalgol > Djimbraon > -gzn !gvr > [[gua\spi]].


''What were Jim Carter's original proposals?''
Original idea of Nalgol was to use a special "vocative particle + [[selbri]]" construct later adopted in Lojban, which [[The Founders|the Founders]] sometimes called a "Carter vocative".


* Way too many to list here: a steady evolution Loglan > Nalgol > Djimbraon > -gzn !gvr > [[gua\spi|gua\spi]].
Also Nalgol eliminated the difference between [[brivla]] and [[rafsi]] which entailed the elimination of the difference between non-metaphoric tanru and lujvo.
** One that was adopted in both Lojban and [[Loglan|Loglan]] is COI/DOI + selbri, which [[the Founders|the Founders]] still sometimes call a "Carter vocative".


''Come on, no fair tempting us like that! Give at least a representative sample of some that were rejected.''
==As a phenomenon in [[conlang]]s==
 
Lojbanists didn't have occasion to mention this typical constructed language phenomenon in Lojban much since the base-lining (and before it was part of the process). However, recently there seems to have been a spate of ever more aggressive cases which now seem to call the word back into use in generic sense as a way to redo the sounding of most words in the lexicon.
* Okay.  The elimination of the difference between gismu and rafsi (which entails the elimination of the difference between non-pe'a tanru and lujvo).
** So far, so good. Maybe I should switch to [[gua\spi|gua\spi]].
 
*** Shhhhh!
*** Go ahead - Jim needs someone to talk to! (I think he's the only guaspist around)

Revision as of 15:48, 10 May 2014

Nalgol is the language by Jim Carter aiming "to improve a minor point in Loglan" by totally redoing a mass of major design features.

Nalgol was a prt of the following evolution: Loglan > Nalgol > Djimbraon > -gzn !gvr > gua\spi.

Original idea of Nalgol was to use a special "vocative particle + selbri" construct later adopted in Lojban, which the Founders sometimes called a "Carter vocative".

Also Nalgol eliminated the difference between brivla and rafsi which entailed the elimination of the difference between non-metaphoric tanru and lujvo.

As a phenomenon in conlangs

Lojbanists didn't have occasion to mention this typical constructed language phenomenon in Lojban much since the base-lining (and before it was part of the process). However, recently there seems to have been a spate of ever more aggressive cases which now seem to call the word back into use in generic sense as a way to redo the sounding of most words in the lexicon.