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==  Minutes of the 2006 Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc. ==
When a word is used enough, or well-enough known, that you don't need


The 2006 Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language
to be told that a [[vombatu|vombatu]] is a mammal, a [[merlanu|merlanu]] a fish, or a [[santuri|santuri]]


Group, Inc. was called to order on Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:49:43 PDT.
a stringed instrument, then you can drop the prefix (mabrn-, finpr-, jgitr-)


It was conducted on the llg-members mailing list.
and use a type 4 fu'ivla.


===  Roll Call ===
Creating type 4 fu'ivla is more art and less procedure than type 3, because


Roll call was waived, as all members were believed to have valid
the foreign language phonology interacts not only with the Lojban phonology,


e-mail addresses on the list. A list of members who actually
but also with the rules of well-formed fu'ivla. Sometimes a foreign word


participated (commented or voted) is as follows:
refuses to be fit into the fu'ivla mold.


* [[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]]
Often, but not always, the type 4 fu'ivla for a plant or animal is the common
* [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]


* Craig Daniel
name, while the type 3 is the word used by scientists. What is mabrnmakropode
* David Barton


* Gary Burgess
to the zoologist, to the common man is just [[kanguru|kanguru]]. But not always:
* [[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]


* [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]
a finprgado is a finprgado.
* John B. Hodges


* [[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambias]]
To make a type 4 fu'ivla, start with the transliterated form of the foreign
* Mark E. Shoulson


* [[jbocre: Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]]
word, and do the following steps in no particular order until you get a well-formed fu'ivla. You can test words for kamfu'ivla with the vlatai program, which is part of the jbofi'e suite.
* [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]


* PaulFrancis O'Sullivan
* If the word ends in a consonant, drop it or add a vowel.
* [[jbocre: Pierre Abbat|Pierre Abbat]]


* [[jbocre: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]
* If the word begins in a vowel, drop it or add a consonant. But if the vowel is followed by a non-initial consonant pair, as in ''antimoni'', keep it.
* Robin Turner


* [[jbocre: Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]]
* If the word begins with a non-initial consonant pair, change it, prepend a vowel, insert a vowel, or exchange them.
* Stephen Weeks


* TommyLee Whitlock
* If there is no consonant pair in the first five letters (not counting apostrophes), put another consonant in or drop a vowel.
* Veijo Vilva


* Yann Le Du
* If the word falls apart or has lujvo form because the second consonant cluster is an initial pair, exchange the two consonants or change one of them.


===  Reading of Minutes ===
* If the word is not a well-formed fu'ivla for any other reason, fiddle around with it.


Deferred by providing a link for people to read at their leisure.
There are several short word forms that are well-formed fu'ivla forms:


http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LLG+2005+Annual+Meeting+Minutes&bl
* VC/CV: alga. [[otpi|otpi]] was proposed for a lidless bottle.


===  Officer's Reports ===
* VCCV: iglu.


Accepted by acclamation.
* CCVVCV: Many of these words denote nationalities or regions, such as tci'ile, tce'exo, kri'ibe, and bre'one, but glauka is an owl.


~pp~
* CCVCVCV: platesa, krotalu, spinaki


President's Report
* CVC/CVCV: kanguru, vombatu, zirkoni, vultura, falkone, salmone, magjaro, tinceme, kapsiku, laktuka, polgosu


------------------
* CCVC/CVCV: mlongena, skalduna, mlibdena, tcimpazi


- Evgueniy Sklyanin has handed over the (mostly, but not quite
* CVVC/CVCV: bauksita


finished) gismu list to Yanis Batura.
Here is how I formed some of these words:


- There have been two logfests this period. The first was at Philcon
tcimpazi: I started with "chimpanzee", which transliterates as "tcimpanzi", but


2005 in Philadelphia on December 9th - 11th, 2005, and was arranged
that is a slinku'i: "pa tcimpanzi" lexes as "patcimpanzi", which might mean a


by Robin; the second was at Penguicon 2006 in Michigan on April 21st
child who wets himself every time he complains. "cimpanzi" is no better; it's


- 23rd, 2006, and was arranged by Matt. Both ahave reportedly been
a lujvo meaning a wet child. "tcipanzi" is a tool-child, whatever that might be.


fairly successful events.
"tcimpazi" is a well-formed fu'ivla.


- Jbovlaste has been steadily expanded, with about 150 edits since
skalduna: The Basques call their language Euskera or Euskara, depending on


last meeting.
dialect, and a Basque speaker (they define membership in their people by


- The Wiki has now been pressed into service as a Content Management
speaking the language) euskaldun. I dropped "eu" from the beginning and added


System for www.lojban.org. Some Officers have been given admin
"a" (the Basque definite article) to the end to get "skalduna".
 
privileges, and are actively maintaining the official pages on the
 
site, giving Robin some much-deserved relief.
 
- The BPFK is currently stuck in the Attitudinals checkpoint. There is
 
little controversial material here; it's just that the sections are
 
numerous, large, and very boring. There is also a lack of shepherds
 
who are able and willing to put in an effort.
 
~/pp~
 
~pp~
 
Treasurer's Report
 
------------------
 
This is also my report to the board for 2Q2006.
 
Main account balance at this time (more or less) last year: $2,264.80
 
Main account balance: $3,823.31
 
Main account balance according to QuickBooks: $3,721.60
 
Still not sure where the extra money came from, but dealing with
 
Wachovia is so difficult I no longer much care.
 
PayPal account balances; current balance is $46.79
 
That means we have a total of:
 
$3870.10
 
In addition, the Treasurer has not missed or been late for a single
 
quarterly report this year, a fact of which he is quite proud.
 
~/pp~
 
===  Committee Reports ===
 
Accepted by acclamation.
 
~pp~
 
New Book Keeping Procedures
 
---------------------------
 
Doing just as well as last year.  I move that this be abolished as a
 
committe, since it only amounts to the Treasurer's regular duties at
 
this point.
 
~/pp~
 
~pp~
 
BPFK
 
----
 
Copied from Arnt's presidential report:
 
- The BPFK is currently stuck in the Attitudinals checkpoint. There
 
is little controversial material here; it's just that the sections
 
are numerous, large, and very boring. There is also a lack of
 
shepherds who are able and willing to put in an effort.
 
~/pp~
 
===  Election of New Members ===
 
None.
 
===  Removal of Old Members ===
 
None.
 
===  Election of the Board ===
 
* Robin Lee Powell
* Bob LeChevalier
 
* Matt Arnold
* Jay Kominek
 
* Arnt Richard Johansen
 
===  Old Business ===
 
None.
 
===  New Business ===
 
Various conversations about the BPFK and Lojban/Klingon activities
 
occoured; none resulted in actual motions or voting.
 
The following was passed by general consent:
 
^
 
First, I move that we commend Robin on his outstdanding work on
 
samxarmuj (the Lojban MOO, which is now basically open for usage, in
 
case no one else was aware). It's certainly an interesting method of
 
getting people involved and learning the language in a fun and
 
interactive way, which has been difficult to come up with given our
 
relative lack of proximity to one another.
 
Second, and in the same vein, I move that we commend Matt Arnold on
 
his lojban evangelism. He seems to have a good group going on out
 
there in Michigan, and he seems to be very good at coming up with
 
ways
 
to get people interested. I'm still looking forward to the next
 
jbocradi.
 
In both of these, you see the doors opening wide for new Lojbanists,
 
who we really do need to keep this language moving forward. I'd like
 
to commend both of these gentlemen on their outstanding efforts.
 
^

Latest revision as of 08:25, 30 June 2014

When a word is used enough, or well-enough known, that you don't need

to be told that a vombatu is a mammal, a merlanu a fish, or a santuri

a stringed instrument, then you can drop the prefix (mabrn-, finpr-, jgitr-)

and use a type 4 fu'ivla.

Creating type 4 fu'ivla is more art and less procedure than type 3, because

the foreign language phonology interacts not only with the Lojban phonology,

but also with the rules of well-formed fu'ivla. Sometimes a foreign word

refuses to be fit into the fu'ivla mold.

Often, but not always, the type 4 fu'ivla for a plant or animal is the common

name, while the type 3 is the word used by scientists. What is mabrnmakropode

to the zoologist, to the common man is just kanguru. But not always:

a finprgado is a finprgado.

To make a type 4 fu'ivla, start with the transliterated form of the foreign

word, and do the following steps in no particular order until you get a well-formed fu'ivla. You can test words for kamfu'ivla with the vlatai program, which is part of the jbofi'e suite.

  • If the word ends in a consonant, drop it or add a vowel.
  • If the word begins in a vowel, drop it or add a consonant. But if the vowel is followed by a non-initial consonant pair, as in antimoni, keep it.
  • If the word begins with a non-initial consonant pair, change it, prepend a vowel, insert a vowel, or exchange them.
  • If there is no consonant pair in the first five letters (not counting apostrophes), put another consonant in or drop a vowel.
  • If the word falls apart or has lujvo form because the second consonant cluster is an initial pair, exchange the two consonants or change one of them.
  • If the word is not a well-formed fu'ivla for any other reason, fiddle around with it.

There are several short word forms that are well-formed fu'ivla forms:

  • VC/CV: alga. otpi was proposed for a lidless bottle.
  • VCCV: iglu.
  • CCVVCV: Many of these words denote nationalities or regions, such as tci'ile, tce'exo, kri'ibe, and bre'one, but glauka is an owl.
  • CCVCVCV: platesa, krotalu, spinaki
  • CVC/CVCV: kanguru, vombatu, zirkoni, vultura, falkone, salmone, magjaro, tinceme, kapsiku, laktuka, polgosu
  • CCVC/CVCV: mlongena, skalduna, mlibdena, tcimpazi
  • CVVC/CVCV: bauksita

Here is how I formed some of these words:

tcimpazi: I started with "chimpanzee", which transliterates as "tcimpanzi", but

that is a slinku'i: "pa tcimpanzi" lexes as "patcimpanzi", which might mean a

child who wets himself every time he complains. "cimpanzi" is no better; it's

a lujvo meaning a wet child. "tcipanzi" is a tool-child, whatever that might be.

"tcimpazi" is a well-formed fu'ivla.

skalduna: The Basques call their language Euskera or Euskara, depending on

dialect, and a Basque speaker (they define membership in their people by

speaking the language) euskaldun. I dropped "eu" from the beginning and added

"a" (the Basque definite article) to the end to get "skalduna".

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