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Reference to the maxims of conversational implicature proposed by the philosopher H.P. Grice. These maxims help us construe meanings based on sometimes incomplete input; when something we hear is ambiguous, they help us pick out the most plausible interpretation, although this construal is conventional, and not logical. If the maxims are being violated, your interlocutor is being either clever/poetical ('flouting', and you have to work out what the joke is --- what the underlying motivation of the violation is, what they are 'really' trying to say), or just plain uncooperative.
parto de [[jbocre: jbovlaste import: Animaloj lang eo]]


The four maxims are:
*(k){jvsn mamulo general=1} '''{jvsv mabru}'''
**{jvsn monotremo general=1} {jvsv sovmabru}


* Maxim of Quality: Do not say what you believe is false. (Why this maxim is a good default assumption should be obvious.)
***{jvsn ornitorinko general=1} {jvsv ornitorinku}
* Maxim of Quantity: Make your contribution as informative as possible.  (e.g. don't say a goat has two legs when it has four legs, even if logically four legs implies [[jbocre: at least|at least]] two legs)
***{jvsn mirmekofago general=1} {jvsv zalgosu}, {jvsv jesymabru}


* Maxim of Relevance: Be relevant. (i.e. if you say something which doesn't appear immediately relevant to what you've been saying, I'm going to assume it is relevant on some deeper level. That's what makes a lot of allusive talk work.)
**{jvsn marsupialo general=1} {jvsv cifydaklymabru}
* Maxim of Manner: Be orderly. (e.g. if you say A, and then say B, I can assume B happened after A.)
***{jvsn kanguruo general=1}, {jvsn makropo general=1} {jvsv kanguru}, {jvsv mabrnmakropode}


These assumptions are frequently encoded into Lojban as interpretive conventions; e.g. story time, goat's legs quantification, etc.
***{jvsn vombato general=1} {jvsv vombatu}
***{jvsn koalo general=1} {jvsv fasxolarkto}


Wilson & Sperber, in their Relevance theory, reduce these maxims to just one: "Be relevant".
***{jvsn didelfo general=1} {jvsv mabrndidelfi}
**{jvsv tu'urselde'i}


*http://coral.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/Classes/Summer96/Textdesc/funslides/node18.html
***{jvsn aardvark general=1} {jvsv rikteropu}
*Another definition: [http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~sanjay/psych2/Lectures/17_language.html
**{jvsv mabrnfolidota}


*A] Gricean analysis of a Seinfeld skit: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~mcginn/SeinfeldClip1all17.html
***{jvsn pangolino general=1} {jvsv pangolino}
**{jvsn insektomanĝulo general=1} {jvsv cinkyctimabru}
 
***{jvsn talpo general=1} {jvsv mabrntalpa}
***{jvsn erinaco general=1} {jvsv ernace}, {jvsv jesymabru}
 
**{jvsn vesperto general=1} {jvsv volmabru}
***{jvsn vespertego general=1} {jvsv bravolmabru}
 
***{jvsn vesperteto general=1} {jvsv cmavolmabru}
****{jvsn vampiro general=1} {jvsv vampiro}, {jvsv mabrndesmodu}
 
**{jvsn kuniklo general=1}, {jvsn leporo general=1} '''{jvsv ractu}'''
**{jvsn rodulo general=1} {jvsv mabrnrodenti}
 
***{jvsn muso general=1} '''{jvsv smacu}'''
***{jvsn rato general=1} '''{jvsv ratcu}'''
 
***{jvsn kastoro general=1} {jvsv mudyratcu}
***{jvsn sciuro general=1} {jvsv ricyratcu}
 
***{jvsn ĉinĉilo general=1} {jvsv tcincila}
***{jvsn marmoto general=1} {jvsv marmota}
 
***{jvsn gliro general=1}, {jvsn dormomuso general=1} {jvsv sipsmacu}
***{jvsn dipo general=1} {jvsv pipsmacu}
 
***{jvsn kobajo general=1} {jvsv smacrkobaiu}
***{jvsn histriko general=1} {jvsv jesyratcu}
 
**{jvsn baleno general=1} {jvsv mabrnsetace}, {jvsv balfipmabru}
***{jvsn fokeno general=1}, {jvsn marporko general=1} {jvsv xajyfi'e}
 
**{jvsv mabrnksenartra}
***{jvsn bradipo general=1} {jvsv snomabru}
 
***{jvsn monotremo general=1} {jvsv mantyctimabru}
***{jvsn armadelo general=1}, {jvsn dazipo general=1} {jvsv cakmabru}
 
**{jvsv mabrnsireni}
***{jvsn manato general=1} {jvsv trixexu}
 
***{jvsn dugongo general=1} {jvsv xasybakni}
***{jvsn marbovino de Steller general=1} ctelr. zei kemxasybakni
 
**{jvsn pinipedo general=1} {jvsv pinpedi}
***{jvsn foko general=1} {jvsv kermipri} pinpedi
 
***{jvsv marleono}, otary {jvsv kerja'o} pinpedi
***{jvsn rosmaro general=1} {jvsv odbenu}
 
**{jvsn elefanto general=1} {jvsv proboskida}, '''{jvsv xanto}'''
***{jvsn azia elefanto general=1} {jvsv xinxanto}
 
***{jvsn afrika elefanto general=1} {jvsv fi'orxanto}
***{jvsn mamuto general=1} {jvsv xantrmamutu}
 
**{jvsv nalrelmeidegji} {jvsv sfumabru}
***{jvsn ĉevalo general=1} '''{jvsv xirma}'''
 
***{jvsn zebro general=1} {jvsv tirxyxi'a}
***{jvsn azeno general=1} '''{jvsv xasli}'''
 
***{jvsn rinocero general=1} {jvsv zbiseljirna}
**{jvsv relmeidegji} {jvsv sfumabru}
 
***{jvsn porko general=1} '''{jvsv xarju}'''
***{jvsn dikotelo general=1} {jvsv tcoxarju}
 
***{jvsn hipopotamo general=1} {jvsv ri'erxi'a}, {jvsv mabrnxipopotamo}
***{jvsn kamelo general=1} '''{jvsv kumte}'''
 
****{jvsn azia kamelo general=1} {jvsv zdokumte}
****{jvsn dromedaro general=1} {jvsv rabykumte}
 
****{jvsn lamo general=1}, {jvsn vikuno general=1}, {jvsn guanako general=1} {jvsv tcokumte}
***{jvsn remaĉulo general=1} {jvsv toltu'oxejyzalvi}
 
****{jvsn ĝirafo general=1} {jvsv djirafa}
****{jvsn cervo general=1} '''{jvsv mirli}'''
 
*****{jvsn rangifero general=1}, {jvsn boaco general=1} {jvsv rangifero}
*****{jvsv jaxmuru}
 
****bovid {jvsv brasmubakni}
*****{jvsn bovo general=1} '''{jvsv bakni}'''
 
*****{jvsn antilopo general=1} {jvsv antilope}
******{jvsn gazelo general=1} {jvsv dorkada}
 
*****{jvsn kobo general=1} {jvsv baknrkobu}
******{jvsn leĉuo general=1} {jvsv letcue} (''unsupported fu'ivla'')
 
*****{jvsn antilopo general=1} {jvsv bajbakni} (''general term, not a taxon'')
*****sassaby {jvsv tsesebe}
 
*****{jvsn obivo general=1}, {jvsn moskbovo general=1} {jvsv baklanme}
*****{jvsn kapro general=1} '''{jvsv kanba}'''
 
*****{jvsn ŝafo general=1} '''{jvsv lanme}'''
**{jvsn karnomanĝulo general=1} {jvsv karnivora}
 
***canid {jvsv mabrnkanida}
****{jvsn hundo general=1} '''{jvsv gerku}'''
 
****{jvsn vulpo general=1} '''{jvsv labno}'''
****{jvsn lupo general=1} '''{jvsv lorxu}'''
 
****{jvsn likaono general=1} {jvsv gernlikaone}
***{jvsn urso general=1} {jvsv mabrnxursida}, '''{jvsv cribe}'''
 
***{jvsn hieno general=1} {jvsv krokuta}
***{jvsv mabrnviverida}
 
****{jvsn mangusto general=1} {jvsv manguso}
***{jvsv mabrnmefitida}
 
****{jvsn mefito general=1} {jvsv ckankua}, {jvsv panvi'imabru}
***{jvsn mustelo general=1} {jvsv mabrnmustelida}
 
****{jvsn furo general=1} {jvsv mabrnfuru}
****wolverine {jvsv karkaju}
 
***{jvsn feliso general=1} {jvsv mabrnfelida}
****{jvsn kato general=1} '''{jvsv mlatu}'''
 
****{jvsn oceloto general=1} {jvsv pardali}
****{jvsn tigro general=1} '''{jvsv tirxu}'''
 
****{jvsn leono general=1} '''{jvsv cinfo}'''
****{jvsn gepardo general=1} {jvsv ja'urtirxu}
 
**{jvsn primato general=1} {jvsv primate}
***{jvsv kroselzbi}
 
****indri {jvsv indri}
****loris {jvsv smanrlori}
 
***{jvsn simio general=1} {jvsv smani}
****tarsier {jvsv tarsire}
 
****{jvsv ganselzbi} jeva'i {jvsv bemjoitco} smani
*****douroucouli {jvsv durkuli}
 
*****howler monkey {jvsv kixsmani}
*****{jvsn marmoseto general=1} {jvsv marmoseto}
 
****{jvsv nitselzbi} jeva'i {jvsv fi'orjoizdo} smani
*****{jvsv kerkopiteku}
 
******colobus {jvsv tamjycausmani}
*****gibbon {jvsv xilbate}
 
*****ape {jvsv remsmismani}
******{jvsn gorilo general=1} {jvsv tsasmani}
 
******{jvsn orangutano general=1} {jvsv rangutano}
******{jvsn ĉimpanzo general=1} {jvsv tcimpazi}
 
*****{jvsn homo general=1} '''{jvsv remna}'''

Revision as of 16:53, 4 November 2013

parto de jbocre: jbovlaste import: Animaloj lang eo

  • (k){jvsn mamulo general=1} {jvsv mabru}
    • {jvsn monotremo general=1} {jvsv sovmabru}
      • {jvsn ornitorinko general=1} {jvsv ornitorinku}
      • {jvsn mirmekofago general=1} {jvsv zalgosu}, {jvsv jesymabru}
    • {jvsn marsupialo general=1} {jvsv cifydaklymabru}
      • {jvsn kanguruo general=1}, {jvsn makropo general=1} {jvsv kanguru}, {jvsv mabrnmakropode}
      • {jvsn vombato general=1} {jvsv vombatu}
      • {jvsn koalo general=1} {jvsv fasxolarkto}
      • {jvsn didelfo general=1} {jvsv mabrndidelfi}
    • {jvsv tu'urselde'i}
      • {jvsn aardvark general=1} {jvsv rikteropu}
    • {jvsv mabrnfolidota}
      • {jvsn pangolino general=1} {jvsv pangolino}
    • {jvsn insektomanĝulo general=1} {jvsv cinkyctimabru}
      • {jvsn talpo general=1} {jvsv mabrntalpa}
      • {jvsn erinaco general=1} {jvsv ernace}, {jvsv jesymabru}
    • {jvsn vesperto general=1} {jvsv volmabru}
      • {jvsn vespertego general=1} {jvsv bravolmabru}
      • {jvsn vesperteto general=1} {jvsv cmavolmabru}
        • {jvsn vampiro general=1} {jvsv vampiro}, {jvsv mabrndesmodu}
    • {jvsn kuniklo general=1}, {jvsn leporo general=1} {jvsv ractu}
    • {jvsn rodulo general=1} {jvsv mabrnrodenti}
      • {jvsn muso general=1} {jvsv smacu}
      • {jvsn rato general=1} {jvsv ratcu}
      • {jvsn kastoro general=1} {jvsv mudyratcu}
      • {jvsn sciuro general=1} {jvsv ricyratcu}
      • {jvsn ĉinĉilo general=1} {jvsv tcincila}
      • {jvsn marmoto general=1} {jvsv marmota}
      • {jvsn gliro general=1}, {jvsn dormomuso general=1} {jvsv sipsmacu}
      • {jvsn dipo general=1} {jvsv pipsmacu}
      • {jvsn kobajo general=1} {jvsv smacrkobaiu}
      • {jvsn histriko general=1} {jvsv jesyratcu}
    • {jvsn baleno general=1} {jvsv mabrnsetace}, {jvsv balfipmabru}
      • {jvsn fokeno general=1}, {jvsn marporko general=1} {jvsv xajyfi'e}
    • {jvsv mabrnksenartra}
      • {jvsn bradipo general=1} {jvsv snomabru}
      • {jvsn monotremo general=1} {jvsv mantyctimabru}
      • {jvsn armadelo general=1}, {jvsn dazipo general=1} {jvsv cakmabru}
    • {jvsv mabrnsireni}
      • {jvsn manato general=1} {jvsv trixexu}
      • {jvsn dugongo general=1} {jvsv xasybakni}
      • {jvsn marbovino de Steller general=1} ctelr. zei kemxasybakni
    • {jvsn pinipedo general=1} {jvsv pinpedi}
      • {jvsn foko general=1} {jvsv kermipri} pinpedi
      • {jvsv marleono}, otary {jvsv kerja'o} pinpedi
      • {jvsn rosmaro general=1} {jvsv odbenu}
    • {jvsn elefanto general=1} {jvsv proboskida}, {jvsv xanto}
      • {jvsn azia elefanto general=1} {jvsv xinxanto}
      • {jvsn afrika elefanto general=1} {jvsv fi'orxanto}
      • {jvsn mamuto general=1} {jvsv xantrmamutu}
    • {jvsv nalrelmeidegji} {jvsv sfumabru}
      • {jvsn ĉevalo general=1} {jvsv xirma}
      • {jvsn zebro general=1} {jvsv tirxyxi'a}
      • {jvsn azeno general=1} {jvsv xasli}
      • {jvsn rinocero general=1} {jvsv zbiseljirna}
    • {jvsv relmeidegji} {jvsv sfumabru}
      • {jvsn porko general=1} {jvsv xarju}
      • {jvsn dikotelo general=1} {jvsv tcoxarju}
      • {jvsn hipopotamo general=1} {jvsv ri'erxi'a}, {jvsv mabrnxipopotamo}
      • {jvsn kamelo general=1} {jvsv kumte}
        • {jvsn azia kamelo general=1} {jvsv zdokumte}
        • {jvsn dromedaro general=1} {jvsv rabykumte}
        • {jvsn lamo general=1}, {jvsn vikuno general=1}, {jvsn guanako general=1} {jvsv tcokumte}
      • {jvsn remaĉulo general=1} {jvsv toltu'oxejyzalvi}
        • {jvsn ĝirafo general=1} {jvsv djirafa}
        • {jvsn cervo general=1} {jvsv mirli}
          • {jvsn rangifero general=1}, {jvsn boaco general=1} {jvsv rangifero}
          • {jvsv jaxmuru}
        • bovid {jvsv brasmubakni}
          • {jvsn bovo general=1} {jvsv bakni}
          • {jvsn antilopo general=1} {jvsv antilope}
            • {jvsn gazelo general=1} {jvsv dorkada}
          • {jvsn kobo general=1} {jvsv baknrkobu}
            • {jvsn leĉuo general=1} {jvsv letcue} (unsupported fu'ivla)
          • {jvsn antilopo general=1} {jvsv bajbakni} (general term, not a taxon)
          • sassaby {jvsv tsesebe}
          • {jvsn obivo general=1}, {jvsn moskbovo general=1} {jvsv baklanme}
          • {jvsn kapro general=1} {jvsv kanba}
          • {jvsn ŝafo general=1} {jvsv lanme}
    • {jvsn karnomanĝulo general=1} {jvsv karnivora}
      • canid {jvsv mabrnkanida}
        • {jvsn hundo general=1} {jvsv gerku}
        • {jvsn vulpo general=1} {jvsv labno}
        • {jvsn lupo general=1} {jvsv lorxu}
        • {jvsn likaono general=1} {jvsv gernlikaone}
      • {jvsn urso general=1} {jvsv mabrnxursida}, {jvsv cribe}
      • {jvsn hieno general=1} {jvsv krokuta}
      • {jvsv mabrnviverida}
        • {jvsn mangusto general=1} {jvsv manguso}
      • {jvsv mabrnmefitida}
        • {jvsn mefito general=1} {jvsv ckankua}, {jvsv panvi'imabru}
      • {jvsn mustelo general=1} {jvsv mabrnmustelida}
        • {jvsn furo general=1} {jvsv mabrnfuru}
        • wolverine {jvsv karkaju}
      • {jvsn feliso general=1} {jvsv mabrnfelida}
        • {jvsn kato general=1} {jvsv mlatu}
        • {jvsn oceloto general=1} {jvsv pardali}
        • {jvsn tigro general=1} {jvsv tirxu}
        • {jvsn leono general=1} {jvsv cinfo}
        • {jvsn gepardo general=1} {jvsv ja'urtirxu}
    • {jvsn primato general=1} {jvsv primate}
      • {jvsv kroselzbi}
        • indri {jvsv indri}
        • loris {jvsv smanrlori}
      • {jvsn simio general=1} {jvsv smani}
        • tarsier {jvsv tarsire}
        • {jvsv ganselzbi} jeva'i {jvsv bemjoitco} smani
          • douroucouli {jvsv durkuli}
          • howler monkey {jvsv kixsmani}
          • {jvsn marmoseto general=1} {jvsv marmoseto}
        • {jvsv nitselzbi} jeva'i {jvsv fi'orjoizdo} smani
          • {jvsv kerkopiteku}
            • colobus {jvsv tamjycausmani}
          • gibbon {jvsv xilbate}
          • ape {jvsv remsmismani}
            • {jvsn gorilo general=1} {jvsv tsasmani}
            • {jvsn orangutano general=1} {jvsv rangutano}
            • {jvsn ĉimpanzo general=1} {jvsv tcimpazi}
          • {jvsn homo general=1} {jvsv remna}