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=== ja'e ===
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On the [[jbocre: justice|justice]] page, the question was brought up about how to
On the [[justice|justice]] page, the question was brought up about how to


translate "If you want peace, work for justice."  You can certainly
translate "If you want peace, work for justice."  You can certainly

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ja'e

On the justice page, the question was brought up about how to

translate "If you want peace, work for justice." You can certainly

make this a logical implication statement ("Working for justice

implies peace", but if you want to keep the command nature, I think

it's best to use a modal, and best one I can find isn't mentioned

elsewhere on this page: ja'e ("with result"). This gives:

ja'e .a'o le nu panpi ku ko gunka fi le ka drazba: "With-result

(hope) peace, work for justice."

At any rate, it's a case where causality is implied, but the order

is reversed from what's expected (i.e., if <effect> is wanted,

then do <cause>).

The gimste defines jalge: x1 (action/event/state) is a result/outcome/conclusion of antecedent x2 (event/state/process). Of course ja'e derives from jalge.

To me it sounds like an unspecified kind of causality: this is the result of that, no matter why.