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{{mu|ja'e .a'o le nu panpi ku ko gunka fi le ka drazba|If you want peace, work for justice.|With-result (hope) peace, work for justice.}}
{{gl|ja'e|with result}}
{{gl|ja'e|fi'o jalge}}


=== ja'e ===
{{gl|jalge|x1 (action/event/state) is a result/outcome/conclusion of antecedent x2 (event/state/process).}}
You can certainly make this a logical implication statement ("Working for justice implies peace"), but if you want to keep the command nature, it's best to use a modal.It is an unspecified kind of causality: this is the result of that, no matter why.


On the [[jbocre: justice|justice]] page, the question was brought up about how to


translate "If you want peace, work for justice."  You can certainly
At any rate, it's a case where causality is implied, but the order is reversed from what's expected (i.e., if <nowiki><effect></nowiki> is wanted, then do <nowiki><cause></nowiki>).
 
make this a logical implication statement ("Working for justice
 
implies peace", but if you want to keep the command nature, I think
 
it's best to use a modal, and best one I can find isn't mentioned
 
elsewhere on this page: ja'e ("with result").  This gives:
 
''ja'e .a'o le nu panpi ku ko gunka fi le ka drazba'': "With-result
 
(hope) peace, work for justice."
 
At any rate, it's a case where causality is implied, but the order
 
is reversed from what's expected (i.e., if <effect> is wanted,
 
then do <cause>).
 
The ''[[jbocre: gimste|gimste]]'' defines ''jalge'': x1 (action/event/state) is a result/outcome/conclusion of antecedent x2 (event/state/process). Of course ''ja'e'' derives from ''jalge''.
 
To me it sounds like an unspecified kind of causality: this is the result of that, no matter why.

Latest revision as of 12:18, 3 September 2014

ja'e .a'o le nu panpi ku ko gunka fi le ka drazba
If you want peace, work for justice.
With-result (hope) peace, work for justice. [literally]
ja'e = with result
ja'e = fi'o jalge
jalge = x1 (action/event/state) is a result/outcome/conclusion of antecedent x2 (event/state/process).

You can certainly make this a logical implication statement ("Working for justice implies peace"), but if you want to keep the command nature, it's best to use a modal.It is an unspecified kind of causality: this is the result of that, no matter why.


At any rate, it's a case where causality is implied, but the order is reversed from what's expected (i.e., if <effect> is wanted, then do <cause>).