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  • balni bilni
  • bradi bredi bridi broda brode brodi brodo brodu
  • canko cinki
  • cmalu cmila
  • janco jinci
  • merli mirli mrilu mruli
  • nanmu ninmu
  • plana plini
  • platu pluta
  • prane prina prenu

--Actually, there are many more groups like this. All 1342 gismu can be sorted into groups having the same consonant CCC core. The complete statistics is the following:

  1. of CCC cores #of groups

1 647 (unique gismu, not interesting)

2 193

3 66

4 16

5 4

6 3

9 1 (brd)

Total: 930 groups, 1342 words

The champion is brd: 9 gismu:

  • brd: barda bradi bredi bridi broda brode brodi brodo brodu

3 groups of 6:

  • plj: pelji pilji pleji pluja polje pulji
  • pln: palne pilno plana plini polno pulni
  • trn: tirna torni trano trene trina turni

4 groups of 5:

  • brt: bartu berti birti bratu brito
  • cnt: canti centi cinta cnita cuntu
  • crn: carna cerni crane crino curnu
  • stc: satci setca stace steci stici

16 groups of 4:

  • bnd: bandu bende bindo bunda
  • ckl: cakla ckilu ckule cukla
  • ckn: cikna ckana ckini ckunu
  • cmn: cimni cmana cmene cmoni
  • cns: censa cinse cnisa cunso
  • crt: cartu certu cortu critu
  • ctn: catni citno ctino cutne
  • grn: garna gerna grana gurni
  • jbr: jabre jbari jbera jibri
  • krc: karce korcu krici kruca
  • mrl: merli mirli mrilu mruli
  • plt: palta platu plita pluta
  • pnj: panje pinji ponjo punji
  • prn: prane prenu prina pruni
  • snc: sance senci since sonci
  • str: satre stero stura sutra

The complete list is too long to put here. I may upload the files on my website some day. --mi'e .evgenis.

Please do. --mi'e .filip.


There's also the things which might be termed "gimsu" - they are the same except with a medial consonant pair reversed. Consider sodva/sovda. That confuses me every time.

  • ratcu ractu - cfipu sai mu'i lenu roreri mabru

Here's a table of gismu pairs with swapped consonants:

|bajra|barja

|balni|banli

|berti|betri

|canti|catni

|cedra|cerda

|danti|datni

|darsi|dasri

|festi|fetsi

|ganra|garna

|janta|jatna

|kabri|karbi

|kalri|karli

|kufra|kurfa

|nanvi|navni

|pulni|punli

|racli|ralci

|ractu|ratcu

|ranti|ratni

|rilti|ritli

|rinsa|risna

|sacki|sakci

|sodva|sovda

|stali|tsali

|stani|tsani

|tabno|tanbo

|tinsa|tisna

  • and xrula, xlura
    • the bugger with this one is that you think 'flora' and that yields a falsefriend with xlura. --And Rosta
    • you mean xruli? --tsali
      • I doubt it, since that word's not in my gismu list, but xrula is ("flower"). mi'e filip.

Here's a table of gismu pairs with a consonant swapped with the neighboring vowel:

|bartu|bratu

|bruna|burna

|cikre|ckire

|cinta|cnita

|citno|ctino

|garna|grana

|gerku|greku

|jbini|jibni

|kruji|kurji

|marji|mraji

|pelji|pleji

|sakci|skaci

|samcu|smacu

|sarji|sraji

|stura|sutra

|tarti|trati

|tirna|trina

|tisna|tsina


(Some of us (me anyway) have been wondering about punning in Lojban,

& these last two types seem extremely promising...anybody want to

write some jokes?)

One that's come up so far is ko ko kruji "turn yourself into cream" as a pun on ko ko kurji "take care of yourself" -- turning a popular(?) expression of goodwill into an insult or a threat. mi'e filip.