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;'''bavro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Bavaria: x1 reflects Bavarian culture/nationality/languag/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''bavro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Bavaria: x1 reflects Bavarian culture/nationality/languag/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]]''Apparently, (some) Bavarians do not consider themselves ''dotco''.'' | ||
;'''beljo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Belgian: x1 reflects Belgian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''beljo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Belgian: x1 reflects Belgian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''belro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Belarusan: x1 reflects Belarusan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''belro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Belarusan: x1 reflects Belarusan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''bolvo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Bolivian: x1 reflects Bolivian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''bolvo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Bolivian: x1 reflects Bolivian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''bulgo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Bulgarian: x1 reflects Bulgarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''bulgo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Bulgarian: x1 reflects Bulgarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''cilno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Chilean: x1 reflects Chilean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''cilno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Chilean: x1 reflects Chilean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''ctipo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Albanian: x1 reflects Albanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''ctipo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Albanian: x1 reflects Albanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''danmo''' [[jbocre: | ]] (zo'o') Danish: x1 reflects Danish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ''There already is a gismu "danmo".''(Hence the zo'o.)'' Likewise "danko", "danso", and "dasko" all clash.'' ''No "danko" doesn't.'' ''With "tanko". If it's worthwhile to keep official gismu separated, then it should be worthwhile when we make an unofficial gismu with rafsi and all.'' Please make up a new Wiki page where you explain the standard according to which tanko and danko clash. As far as I know, the only requirement for gismu spearation is to not be different only in the final vowel. --[[User:tsali|tsali]] | ;'''danmo''' [[jbocre: | ]] (zo'o') Danish: x1 reflects Danish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ''There already is a gismu "danmo".''(Hence the zo'o.)'' Likewise "danko", "danso", and "dasko" all clash.'' ''No "danko" doesn't.'' ''With "tanko". If it's worthwhile to keep official gismu separated, then it should be worthwhile when we make an unofficial gismu with rafsi and all.'' Please make up a new Wiki page where you explain the standard according to which tanko and danko clash. As far as I know, the only requirement for gismu spearation is to not be different only in the final vowel. --[[User:tsali|tsali]] | ||
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;'''finlo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Finnish: x1 reflects Finnish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ;'''finlo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Finnish: x1 reflects Finnish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
;'''flamo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Flemish: x1 reflects Flemish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''flamo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Flemish: x1 reflects Flemish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''glano''' [[jbocre: | ]] English: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of England in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ;'''glano''' [[jbocre: | ]] English: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of England in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
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;'''kasto''' [[jbocre: | ]] Spanish: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of Spain in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] ''Why not use spano?'' For same reason as reason for using ''glano'' alongside ''glico''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] ''It should probably be the other way around: ''kasto'' for the language and ''spano'' for the country. I suspect that using ''kasto'' for the whole of Spain would be too politically incorrect. It would be like using ''glico'' for the whole UK.'' [[User:xorxes|xorxes]] | ;'''kasto''' [[jbocre: | ]] Spanish: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of Spain in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] ''Why not use spano?'' For same reason as reason for using ''glano'' alongside ''glico''. [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] ''It should probably be the other way around: ''kasto'' for the language and ''spano'' for the country. I suspect that using ''kasto'' for the whole of Spain would be too politically incorrect. It would be like using ''glico'' for the whole UK.'' [[User:xorxes|xorxes]] | ||
;'''kepko''' [[jbocre: kek|kek]] Qu�b�cois: x1 reflects Qu�b�cois culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''kepko''' [[jbocre: kek|kek]] Qu�b�cois: x1 reflects Qu�b�cois culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]]Suggestions for better gismu? I'd like to use ''kebko'' but that has a problem with voiced/unvoiced in the middle. | ||
;'''kimro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Welsh: x1 reflects Welsh culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[jbocre: or ''kamro''|or ''kamro'']] | ;'''kimro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Welsh: x1 reflects Welsh culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[jbocre: or ''kamro''|or ''kamro'']] | ||
;'''kipro''' [[jbocre: kip|kip]] Cypriot: x1 reflects Cypriot culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''kipro''' [[jbocre: kip|kip]] Cypriot: x1 reflects Cypriot culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''kolmo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Colombian: x1 reflects Colombian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''kolmo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Colombian: x1 reflects Colombian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
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;'''livjo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Livagian: x1 reflects Livagian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] ''This clashes with "libjo".'' ''That's not a clash. Only if two gismu are the same except for the final vowel do they clash (because they have the same four-letter rafsi). Consonant clashes were checked when generating the original [[gimste|gimste]] but are not a rule of the language.'' ''What's Livagian anyway? There are too many nationalities to have gismu for all of them.'' ''These are slang gismu. There's no guarantee there won't be homonymies among them.'' [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ;'''livjo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Livagian: x1 reflects Livagian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] ''This clashes with "libjo".'' ''That's not a clash. Only if two gismu are the same except for the final vowel do they clash (because they have the same four-letter rafsi). Consonant clashes were checked when generating the original [[gimste|gimste]] but are not a rule of the language.'' ''What's Livagian anyway? There are too many nationalities to have gismu for all of them.'' ''These are slang gismu. There's no guarantee there won't be homonymies among them.'' [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
;'''lixto''' [[jbocre: | ]] Liechtenstein: x1 reflects Liechtensteinian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''lixto''' [[jbocre: | ]] Liechtenstein: x1 reflects Liechtensteinian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''loglo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Loglandian: x1 reflects Loglan/Loglandian/Old Loglan/Institute Loglan/TLI Loglan culture/language in aspect x2 | ;'''loglo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Loglandian: x1 reflects Loglan/Loglandian/Old Loglan/Institute Loglan/TLI Loglan culture/language in aspect x2 | ||
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;'''madjo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Hungarian: x1 reflects Hungarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ;'''madjo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Hungarian: x1 reflects Hungarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
;'''malto''' [[jbocre: | ]] Maltese: x1 reflects Maltese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''malto''' [[jbocre: | ]] Maltese: x1 reflects Maltese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''monko''' [[jbocre: mok|mok]] Monaco: x1 reflects Monegasque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''monko''' [[jbocre: mok|mok]] Monaco: x1 reflects Monegasque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''mrino''' [[jbocre: | ]] San Marino: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of San Marino in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ;'''mrino''' [[jbocre: | ]] San Marino: x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of San Marino in aspect x2: [[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
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;'''perno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Peruvian: x1 reflects Peruvian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''perno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Peruvian: x1 reflects Peruvian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''polko''' [[ | ;'''polko''' [[pok|pok]] Polish: x1 reflects Polish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''ranfo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Iranian: x1 reflects Iranian/Persian/Farsi culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''ranfo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Iranian: x1 reflects Iranian/Persian/Farsi culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]]Suggestions for a better gismu? I picked the '''f''' because of "Farsi"; other letters are also imaginable. | ||
;'''romno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Romanian: x1 reflects Romanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''romno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Romanian: x1 reflects Romanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''[[jbocre: spero|spero]]''' [[jbocre: | ]] Esperantist: x1 reflects Esperantist culture/nationality/language in aspect x2 | ;'''[[jbocre: spero|spero]]''' [[jbocre: | ]] Esperantist: x1 reflects Esperantist culture/nationality/language in aspect x2 | ||
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;'''talno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Italian: x1 reflects Italian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''talno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Italian: x1 reflects Italian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''tcexo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Czech: x1 reflects Czech culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''tcexo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Czech: x1 reflects Czech culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''tcoso''' [[jbocre: | ]] Korean: x1 reflects Korean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''tcoso''' [[jbocre: | ]] Korean: x1 reflects Korean culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''tunso''' [[jbocre: | ]] Tunisian: x1 reflects Tunisian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''tunso''' [[jbocre: | ]] Tunisian: x1 reflects Tunisian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''turko''' [[jbocre: | ]] Turkish: x1 reflects Turkish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''turko''' [[jbocre: | ]] Turkish: x1 reflects Turkish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''valno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Walloon: x1 reflects Walloon culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''valno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Walloon: x1 reflects Walloon culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]]''the part of Belgium that is not Flemish-speaking -- where they speak French or the related Walloon'' | ||
;'''vasko''' [[jbocre: | ]] Basque: x1 reflects Basque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''vasko''' [[jbocre: | ]] Basque: x1 reflects Basque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''vatko''' [[jbocre: vak va'o|vak va'o]] Vatican: x1 reflects Vatican City culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''vatko''' [[jbocre: vak va'o|vak va'o]] Vatican: x1 reflects Vatican City culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''venzo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Venezuelan: x1 reflects Venezuelan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''venzo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Venezuelan: x1 reflects Venezuelan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ||
;'''verdo''' [[jbocre: ved ve'o|ved ve'o]] Verduria: x1 reflects [http://www.zompist.com/virtuver.htm erdurian] culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''verdo''' [[jbocre: ved ve'o|ved ve'o]] Verduria: x1 reflects [http://www.zompist.com/virtuver.htm erdurian] culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]]''an invented language and culture'' | ||
;'''vetno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Vietnamese: x1 reflects Vietnamese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''vetno''' [[jbocre: | ]] Vietnamese: x1 reflects Vietnamese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''xafko''' [[jbocre: xaf|xaf]] Afghan: x1 reflects Afghan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''xafko''' [[jbocre: xaf|xaf]] Afghan: x1 reflects Afghan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''xasro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Austrian: x1 reflects Austrian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''xasro''' [[jbocre: | ]] Austrian: x1 reflects Austrian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]] | ||
;'''xelvo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Swiss: x1 reflects Swiss culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ''This clashes with "kelvo".'' | ;'''xelvo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Swiss: x1 reflects Swiss culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 ''This clashes with "kelvo".'' | ||
;'''xirlo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Irish: x1 reflects Irish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[ | ;'''xirlo''' [[jbocre: | ]] Irish: x1 reflects Irish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 [[pne|pne]]Or ''sicko'', from ''sicko'o'' (< stici+skoto), which is given for "Irish" [[presumably referring mainly to the language|presumably referring mainly to the language]] in the gi'uste? | ||
;'''xorvo''' [[jbocre: xro|xro]] Croatian: x1 reflects Croatian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 | ;'''xorvo''' [[jbocre: xro|xro]] Croatian: x1 reflects Croatian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 |
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- bavro Bavaria
- x1 reflects Bavarian culture/nationality/languag/geography in aspect x2 pneApparently, (some) Bavarians do not consider themselves dotco.
- belro Belarusan
- x1 reflects Belarusan culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- bulgo Bulgarian
- x1 reflects Bulgarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- ctipo Albanian
- x1 reflects Albanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- danmo (zo'o') Danish
- x1 reflects Danish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 There already is a gismu "danmo".(Hence the zo'o.) Likewise "danko", "danso", and "dasko" all clash. No "danko" doesn't. With "tanko". If it's worthwhile to keep official gismu separated, then it should be worthwhile when we make an unofficial gismu with rafsi and all. Please make up a new Wiki page where you explain the standard according to which tanko and danko clash. As far as I know, the only requirement for gismu spearation is to not be different only in the final vowel. --tsali
- finlo Finnish
- x1 reflects Finnish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: And Rosta
- flamo Flemish
- x1 reflects Flemish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- glano English
- x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of England in aspect x2: And Rosta
- goslo Yugoslavian (stidi zo nanslovo peseba'iku)
- x1 reflects Yugoslavian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2
- groto El Grotto
- x1 reflects El Grotto culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: And Rosta
- jamro Aymara
- x1 reflects Aymara culture in aspect x2 Adam
- kamro Welsh
- x1 reflects Welsh culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 or kimro: And Rosta
- kasto Spanish
- x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of Spain in aspect x2: And Rosta Why not use spano? For same reason as reason for using glano alongside glico. And Rosta It should probably be the other way around: kasto for the language and spano for the country. I suspect that using kasto for the whole of Spain would be too politically incorrect. It would be like using glico for the whole UK. xorxes
- kepko kek Qu�b�cois
- x1 reflects Qu�b�cois culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pneSuggestions for better gismu? I'd like to use kebko but that has a problem with voiced/unvoiced in the middle.
- kimro Welsh
- x1 reflects Welsh culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 or kamro
- kongo Congo
- x1 reflects Congolese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: And Rosta stidi zo kongolo mi'e pier.
- livjo Livagian
- x1 reflects Livagian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: And Rosta This clashes with "libjo". That's not a clash. Only if two gismu are the same except for the final vowel do they clash (because they have the same four-letter rafsi). Consonant clashes were checked when generating the original gimste but are not a rule of the language. What's Livagian anyway? There are too many nationalities to have gismu for all of them. These are slang gismu. There's no guarantee there won't be homonymies among them. And Rosta
- lixto Liechtenstein
- x1 reflects Liechtensteinian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- loglo Loglandian
- x1 reflects Loglan/Loglandian/Old Loglan/Institute Loglan/TLI Loglan culture/language in aspect x2
- madjo Hungarian
- x1 reflects Hungarian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2: And Rosta
- malto Maltese
- x1 reflects Maltese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- mrino San Marino
- x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of San Marino in aspect x2: And Rosta
- nizlo (or nuzlo) New Zealand
- x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of New Zealand in aspect x2: And Rosta
- norgo no'o Norwegian
- x1 reflects Norwegian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2
- nuzlo (or nizlo) New Zealand
- x1 reflects culture/nationality/language/geography of New Zealand in aspect x2: And Rosta
- ranfo Iranian
- x1 reflects Iranian/Persian/Farsi culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pneSuggestions for a better gismu? I picked the f because of "Farsi"; other letters are also imaginable.
- romno Romanian
- x1 reflects Romanian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- spero Esperantist
- x1 reflects Esperantist culture/nationality/language in aspect x2
- tcexo Czech
- x1 reflects Czech culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- tunso Tunisian
- x1 reflects Tunisian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- valno Walloon
- x1 reflects Walloon culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pnethe part of Belgium that is not Flemish-speaking -- where they speak French or the related Walloon
- vasko Basque
- x1 reflects Basque culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- vatko vak va'o Vatican
- x1 reflects Vatican City culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- verdo ved ve'o Verduria
- x1 reflects erdurian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pnean invented language and culture
- vetno Vietnamese
- x1 reflects Vietnamese culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- xasro Austrian
- x1 reflects Austrian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pne
- xelvo Swiss
- x1 reflects Swiss culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 This clashes with "kelvo".
- xirlo Irish
- x1 reflects Irish culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2 pneOr sicko, from sicko'o (< stici+skoto), which is given for "Irish" presumably referring mainly to the language in the gi'uste?
- xorvo xro Croatian
- x1 reflects Croatian culture/nationality/language/geography in aspect x2
see also [1] tavla fi le tutra pe le terdi and cultural fu'ivla
Dare I suggest vopko for Volap�k zo'oru'e? (I don't even know where to go for Klingon... lingo? *tlino I think is illegal. kligo? I am not being serious here, fear not. Then again, as I said under terki, nonce-brivla make plenty of sense to me) --mi'e mark.
- How about runbo (from runbau) for conlang? -- Adam
(Where's Talossa??)
OK, people, before this goes any further: some of the cultures above are fictional ("micronations"), made-up countries that people get into primarily for the fun of play-acting at politics. alossa is a quite well-known instance, which also features a conlang (Proven�al meets Albanian and Berber for lunch) whose primary purpose is to use as many diacritics as possible :-) . For El Grotto, see tsali's home page. For Livagian, see [2] .
In checking whether Livagian was mentioned elsewhere online, btw, I fell upon the Conlang Ethnologue (-m, -z) : a picture-perfect parody of he SIL Ethnologue!