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=== Poetry and Music ===
 
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Silly+poems Silly poems]''' — original poetry by ??
=== Current Grammar ===
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Carmina+Lojbana Carmina Lojbana]''' — Carmina Burana, translated by ??
 
=== Children's rhymes and songs ===
''free*'' appears 147 times in the PEG grammar
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/da+pu+laldo+ninmu+co+tunlo+le+sfani da pu laldo ninmu co tunlo le sfani]''' — Translation of "There once was an old lady who swallowed a fly".
 
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/The+Song+That+Never+Ends The Song That Never Ends]''' (Translation)
indicator <-  (UI-clause / CAI-clause) NAI-clause? / DAhO-clause / FUhO-clause
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/The+Itsy+Bitsy+Spider The Itsy Bitsy Spider]''' (Translation)
 
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Old+MacDonald Old MacDonald]''' (Translation)
=== Proposed Grammar ===
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/le+cmalu+bloti le cmalu bloti]''' &mdash; Translation of "The Small Boat", a French(?) traditional song.
 
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/da+kevna+le+baktu da kevna le baktu]''' &mdash; Translation of "There's a hole in the bucket".
Eliminate ''free*'' from every current rule and add it to:
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/lo+mlatu+cu+bitmu+cpare lo mlatu cu bitmu cpare]''' &mdash; Translation of Polish children song [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wlaz%C5%82_kotek_na_p%C5%82otek "Wlazł kotek na płotek"]
 
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/ctoxrula ctoxrula]''' &mdash; Translation of Polish children song "Stokrotka"
indicator <-  (UI-clause / CAI-clause) NAI-clause? / DAhO-clause / FUhO-clause / free
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/senva+lo+melbi senva lo melbi]''' &mdash; Translated Lullaby(?)
 
=== Comics ===
=== Rationale ===
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/lei+lojbo lei lojbo]''' &mdash; Lojbanic comics (Original)
 
* '''[http://identi.ca/snan/tag/comics Sandra Snan comics]''' in Lojban (Original)
Since the PEG grammar allows infinite lookahead, there is no point in having to learn the 147 places where free is currently allowed (or the fifty something places where it is not allowed, depending on how you count). It is easier to learn that it is allowed everywhere, like indicators.
* '''[http://languages.geekworld.dk/wiki/index.php/Freefall_in_Lojban Ongoing wiki translation of the Freefall comics]''' Warning: no translated pictures until any full translation appears.
 
=== Humor ===
=== Notes ===
* A translation of "All your base are belong to us": '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/AllYourBase AllYourBase]'''
 
=== Non-fiction ===
The exceptions to where indicator/free would be allowed are:
* Lojban information on the '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Single+Transferrable+Vote Single Transferrable Vote]''' system (Translation)
 
=== Games ===
*After a right grabbing magic word (ZO, ZOI, LOhU, ZEI)
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Broken+Phone Broken Phone]''' &mdash; Translation, sort of
*''(number / lerfu-string) MAI-clause'' can't come after a ''number'' or ''lerfu-string'' that is not part of it, because it would absorb it.
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la+cibyska la cibyska]''' &mdash; Translation of the rules for "Tri-Versity"
 
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lojban+Scrabble Lojban Scrabble]''' (Translation)
*''vocative'' can't come after a ''COI-clause'' that is not part of it, because it would absorb it.
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la+.nomik. la .nomik.]''' &mdash; A wiki based Lojban game of Nomic
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/MMORPG MMORPG]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Role-playing+Games Role-playing Games]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/kucyvla kucyvla]''' &mdash; Crossword puzzles
=== Math ===
* A '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/mathematical+proof mathematical proof]''' in lojban?
* New Foundations' '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Axiom+of+stratified+comprehension--Mekso+example axiom of stratified comprehension]''' in mekso and bridi math.
=== Odds and ends ===
* Mini-sagas on [http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Alan+Libert Alan Libert], '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/xaurselfunca+gugde The Lucky Country]''', and '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Codex+Woldemar Codex Woldemar]''', inter alia
* The renowned argument on palatals in '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tavla+fi+le+tutra+pe+le+terdi tavla fi le tutra pe le terdi]'''
* An attempt at translating '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Hamlet Hamlet]'''
* Translation of a list of '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Conlang+Test+Sentences Conlang Test Sentences]'''
* Larry Wall's '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Perl+the+first+postmodern+programming+language Perl the first postmodern programming language]'''
* A translation of '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/The+Legend+Of+Zelda The Legend of Zelda]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/sidbo sidbo]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/rarna+ciska rarna ciska]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/dunra dunra]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la+tedyxamsi la tedyxamsi]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/jitri'u+xu+venfu jitri'u xu venfu]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/le+panoki'omoi+nu+viska+la+puzi+nunstika le panoki'omoi nu viska la puzi nunstika]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/jbocu'e jbocu'e]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Elvish+rosetta+stone Elvish rosetta stone]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/niall+and+elizas niall and elizas]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/talks talks]'''
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/counting+songs counting songs]'''
* There are no '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/movies movies]''' yet.
* The script for the short film '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/elephants+dream Elephants Dream]''' is in translation.
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Comedy+Tonight Comedy Tonight]''' translation

Latest revision as of 08:08, 30 June 2014


Current Grammar

free* appears 147 times in the PEG grammar

indicator <- (UI-clause / CAI-clause) NAI-clause? / DAhO-clause / FUhO-clause

Proposed Grammar

Eliminate free* from every current rule and add it to:

indicator <- (UI-clause / CAI-clause) NAI-clause? / DAhO-clause / FUhO-clause / free

Rationale

Since the PEG grammar allows infinite lookahead, there is no point in having to learn the 147 places where free is currently allowed (or the fifty something places where it is not allowed, depending on how you count). It is easier to learn that it is allowed everywhere, like indicators.

Notes

The exceptions to where indicator/free would be allowed are:

  • After a right grabbing magic word (ZO, ZOI, LOhU, ZEI)
  • (number / lerfu-string) MAI-clause can't come after a number or lerfu-string that is not part of it, because it would absorb it.
  • vocative can't come after a COI-clause that is not part of it, because it would absorb it.
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