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==turjvo classes== | ==turjvo classes== | ||
If for a given lujvo you find more places than listed here it means this lujvo is not a jvajvo. | If for a given lujvo you find more places than listed here it means this lujvo is not a jvajvo. | ||
# '''-gau''' suffix. '''x1 x2 x3 x4 ... brodygau''' unwraps into '''x1 gasnu lo nu x2 broda x3 x4 ...'''. Equivalent to '''x1 jai gau broda fai x2 x3 x4 ...''' | # '''-gau''' suffix. '''x1 x2 x3 x4 ... brodygau''' unwraps into '''x1 cu gasnu lo nu x2 broda x3 x4 ...'''. Equivalent to '''x1 jai gau broda fai x2 x3 x4 ...''' | ||
# '''-ske''' suffix. '''brodyske''' = ''x1 is the broda science, broda-ology studying particular subject x2'' | # '''-ske''' suffix. '''brodyske''' = ''x1 is the broda science, broda-ology studying particular subject x2'' | ||
# '''-pre''' suffix. '''brodypre''' means ''x1 is a brodaman, a broda-er''. Roughly corresponds to English "-er" or "-man" like "fireman" etc. Can describe only persons, not non-conscious pbjects. | # '''-pre''' suffix. '''brodypre''' means ''x1 is a brodaman, a broda-er''. Roughly corresponds to English "-er" or "-man" like "fireman" etc. Can describe only persons, not non-conscious pbjects. | ||
# '''-sku''' suffix. '''brodysku''' = ''x1 says x2 (text related to broda) towards x3''. '''piksku''' means ''to say comment'', '''retsku''' means ''to ask (say question)'' ... | # '''-sku''' suffix. '''brodysku''' = ''x1 says x2 (text related to broda) towards x3''. '''piksku''' means ''to say comment'', '''retsku''' means ''to ask (say question)'' ... | ||
# '''cmacma''', '''brabra''' mean ''very small'', ''very big''. Unwrap according to [[la tsani|La Tsani]]'s Flipping Principle. | # '''cmacma''', '''brabra''' mean ''very small'', ''very big''. Unwrap according to [[la tsani|La Tsani]]'s Flipping Principle. | ||
# '''bra-''' prefix | # '''bra-''' prefix. '''brabroda''' - ''something like broda metaphorically''. The place structure is identical to '''broda'''. '''bramlatu''' is ''Big Cat'', not ''big cat''. '''braxamsi''' is described by some not just as a ''big xamsi'' but having some new properties. | ||
# '''cma-''' prefix generates cimjvo. | # '''cma-''' prefix generates cimjvo. | ||
# '''tce-''' prefix. '''tcebroda''' unwraps into '''mutce lo ka ce'u broda''' | # '''tce-''' prefix. '''tcebroda''' unwraps into '''mutce lo ka ce'u broda''' | ||
# '''zan-''' prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need '''kem''' after it. Marks the tail as something favorable, nice, cool. | # '''zan-''' prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need '''kem''' after it. Marks the tail as something favorable, nice, cool. | ||
# '''mal-''' prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need '''kem''' after it. Marks the tail as something bad, deplorable, shitty. | # '''mal-''' prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need '''kem''' after it. Marks the tail as something bad, deplorable, shitty. | ||
# '''zil-'''. '''zilbroda''' unwraps into '''zi'o cu broda''' | |||
==lo seltau that are adverbial== | ==lo seltau that are adverbial== | ||
* certain prefixes work as adverbs. i.e. in a lujvo with two {{jvs|selbrisle}} they dont take the position of x2 of the tertau. | * certain prefixes work as adverbs. i.e. in a lujvo with two {{jvs|selbrisle}} they dont take the position of x2 of the tertau. | ||
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** See also [[selskiski]]. | ** See also [[selskiski]]. | ||
** [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/Fu4L7pr04gg/aitwQSBBKGgJ Cyril Slobin and Russian community] noted the same. {{vlapoi|lo|pofygau}} could be allegedly expanded into '''lo gasnu je spofu''' or '''lo gasnu poi spofu''' but in turjvbo ideology this doesn't happen since '''-gau''' is a suffix having a fixed meaning. | ** [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/Fu4L7pr04gg/aitwQSBBKGgJ Cyril Slobin and Russian community] noted the same. {{vlapoi|lo|pofygau}} could be allegedly expanded into '''lo gasnu je spofu''' or '''lo gasnu poi spofu''' but in turjvbo ideology this doesn't happen since '''-gau''' is a suffix having a fixed meaning. | ||
==Some commonly used terms== | |||
*lujvo - a verb formally consisting of rafsi according to Lojban morphology. | |||
*jvajvo - a lujvo that can be unwrapped into a bridi according to rules of its consisting slotted rafsi. | |||
*cimjvo - a lujvo the meaning (+ sometimes place structure) of which is unpredictable from its constituent rafsi ('''brabroda''') | |||
*turjvo - a lujvo that has rafsi taking certain positions (slots) in the lujvo with fixed effect. | |||
Revision as of 18:13, 18 August 2015
turjvo classes
If for a given lujvo you find more places than listed here it means this lujvo is not a jvajvo.
- -gau suffix. x1 x2 x3 x4 ... brodygau unwraps into x1 cu gasnu lo nu x2 broda x3 x4 .... Equivalent to x1 jai gau broda fai x2 x3 x4 ...
- -ske suffix. brodyske = x1 is the broda science, broda-ology studying particular subject x2
- -pre suffix. brodypre means x1 is a brodaman, a broda-er. Roughly corresponds to English "-er" or "-man" like "fireman" etc. Can describe only persons, not non-conscious pbjects.
- -sku suffix. brodysku = x1 says x2 (text related to broda) towards x3. piksku means to say comment, retsku means to ask (say question) ...
- cmacma, brabra mean very small, very big. Unwrap according to La Tsani's Flipping Principle.
- bra- prefix. brabroda - something like broda metaphorically. The place structure is identical to broda. bramlatu is Big Cat, not big cat. braxamsi is described by some not just as a big xamsi but having some new properties.
- cma- prefix generates cimjvo.
- tce- prefix. tcebroda unwraps into mutce lo ka ce'u broda
- zan- prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need kem after it. Marks the tail as something favorable, nice, cool.
- mal- prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need kem after it. Marks the tail as something bad, deplorable, shitty.
- zil-. zilbroda unwraps into zi'o cu broda
lo seltau that are adverbial
- certain prefixes work as adverbs. i.e. in a lujvo with two selbrisle they dont take the position of x2 of the tertau.
- Example: tce- prefix. In tcebroda in instead puts broda into x2 of mutce in expansion.
- See also selskiski.
- Cyril Slobin and Russian community noted the same. lo pofygau could be allegedly expanded into lo gasnu je spofu or lo gasnu poi spofu but in turjvbo ideology this doesn't happen since -gau is a suffix having a fixed meaning.
Some commonly used terms
- lujvo - a verb formally consisting of rafsi according to Lojban morphology.
- jvajvo - a lujvo that can be unwrapped into a bridi according to rules of its consisting slotted rafsi.
- cimjvo - a lujvo the meaning (+ sometimes place structure) of which is unpredictable from its constituent rafsi (brabroda)
- turjvo - a lujvo that has rafsi taking certain positions (slots) in the lujvo with fixed effect.