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'''lo turtau''' are lo [[tanru]] or parts of lo tanru that have a fixed meaning, which depends on their structure.
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'''lo'e turtau''' are lo'e [[tanru]] or parts of lo'e tanru that have a fixed meaning, which depends on their structure.
  
 
== turtau classes ==
 
== turtau classes ==
*lo turtau are converted into predicate structures by expanding their terbri/sumti-type fingerprints.
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*lo'e turtau are converted into predicate structures by expanding their terbri/sumti-type fingerprints.
*Warning: in colloquial Lojban lo tanru with lo turtau components may have meanings different from described here.
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*Warning: in colloquial Lojban lo tanru with lo'e turtau components may have meanings different from described here.
 
=== seltau: "x1 (entity), x2 (property of x1)" ===
 
=== seltau: "x1 (entity), x2 (property of x1)" ===
# '''mutce''' seltau. '''x1 mutce broda''' unwraps into '''x1 mutce lo ka ce'u broda'''
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# '''mutce''' seltau. '''x1 mutce broda''' unwraps into '''x1 mutce le ka ce'u broda'''
# '''traji''' seltau. '''x1 traji broda''' unwraps into '''x1 traji lo ka ce'u broda'''
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# '''traji''' seltau. '''x1 traji broda''' unwraps into '''x1 traji le ka ce'u broda'''
# '''zenba''' seltau. '''x1 zenba broda''' unwraps into '''x1 zenba lo ka ce'u broda'''
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# '''zenba''' seltau. '''x1 zenba broda''' unwraps into '''x1 zenba le ka ce'u broda'''
# '''kakne broda''' = '''kakne lo ka ju'a broda''', ''to broda and to be capable of brodaing'' (hence '''kakne co broda''' is considered incorrect<ref>https://mw.lojban.org/papri/tsani's_Interpretations:_Abstractors</ref>)
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# '''kakne broda''' = '''kakne le ka ju'a broda''', ''to broda and to be capable of brodaing'' (hence '''kakne co broda''' is considered incorrect<ref>https://mw.lojban.org/papri/tsani's_Interpretations:_Abstractors</ref>)
 
==== noun form ====
 
==== noun form ====
# '''barda''' seltau. '''lo barda broda''' = '''lo broda poi barda''', ''lo broda that is big''.
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# '''barda''' seltau. '''le barda broda''' = '''le broda poi barda''', ''le broda that is big''.
# '''cmalu''' seltau. '''lo cmalu broda''' = '''lo broda poi cmalu''', ''lo broda that is small''.
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# '''cmalu''' seltau. '''le cmalu broda''' = '''le broda poi cmalu''', ''le broda that is small''.
 
=== seltau: "x1 (entity)" (aka adjective/adverbial) ===
 
=== seltau: "x1 (entity)" (aka adjective/adverbial) ===
 
# '''zabna''' seltau.
 
# '''zabna''' seltau.
 
# '''mabla''' seltau.
 
# '''mabla''' seltau.
# '''blanu''' seltau. '''lo blanu broda''' = '''lo broda poi blanu''', ''lo broda that is blue''.
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# '''blanu''' seltau. '''le blanu broda''' = '''le broda poi blanu''', ''le broda that is blue''.
 
=== seltau: "x1 (clause)" ===
 
=== seltau: "x1 (clause)" ===
# '''cafne''' seltau. '''x1 cafne cadzu''' = '''x1 cadzu i ju'a nai lo nu go'i cu cafne''', ''x1 often walks''
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# '''cafne''' seltau. '''x1 cafne cadzu''' = '''x1 cadzu i ju'a nai le nu go'i cu cafne''', ''x1 often walks''
 
# '''cerni'''/'''vanci''' seltau. '''x1 cerni sanmi''', ''x1 is a breakfast''
 
# '''cerni'''/'''vanci''' seltau. '''x1 cerni sanmi''', ''x1 is a breakfast''
 
# '''zekri''' seltau. '''x1 zekri lebna''', ''x1 steals''
 
# '''zekri''' seltau. '''x1 zekri lebna''', ''x1 steals''
  
 
=== others ===
 
=== others ===
# disputable: '''simxu''' seltau. '''x1 simxu broda x2''' expands into '''x1 jo'u x2 simxu lo ka ce'u broda ce'u''', ''x1 and x2 reciprocally broda''
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# heavily disputable: '''simxu''' seltau. '''x1 simxu broda x2''' expands into '''x1 ce x2 simxu le ka ce'u ce'u broda''', ''x1 and x2 reciprocally broda''
  
==Some nice examples of lo turtau ==
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==Some nice examples of lo'e turtau ==
*{{gln|lo te gerna stura|grammatical structure}}
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*{{gln|le te gerna stura|grammatical structure}}
*{{gln|lo se smuni stura|semantic structure}}
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*{{gln|le se smuni stura|semantic structure}}
 
==Other links==
 
==Other links==
{{See also|turtau i skicu lo ditcu}}
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{{See also|turtau i skicu le ditcu}}
  
 
==References==
 
==References==
 
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[[Category:Trends in Lojban]]
 
[[Category:Trends in Lojban]]

Latest revision as of 20:35, 5 January 2019

lo'e turtau are lo'e tanru or parts of lo'e tanru that have a fixed meaning, which depends on their structure.

turtau classes

  • lo'e turtau are converted into predicate structures by expanding their terbri/sumti-type fingerprints.
  • Warning: in colloquial Lojban lo tanru with lo'e turtau components may have meanings different from described here.

seltau: "x1 (entity), x2 (property of x1)"

  1. mutce seltau. x1 mutce broda unwraps into x1 mutce le ka ce'u broda
  2. traji seltau. x1 traji broda unwraps into x1 traji le ka ce'u broda
  3. zenba seltau. x1 zenba broda unwraps into x1 zenba le ka ce'u broda
  4. kakne broda = kakne le ka ju'a broda, to broda and to be capable of brodaing (hence kakne co broda is considered incorrect[1])

noun form

  1. barda seltau. le barda broda = le broda poi barda, le broda that is big.
  2. cmalu seltau. le cmalu broda = le broda poi cmalu, le broda that is small.

seltau: "x1 (entity)" (aka adjective/adverbial)

  1. zabna seltau.
  2. mabla seltau.
  3. blanu seltau. le blanu broda = le broda poi blanu, le broda that is blue.

seltau: "x1 (clause)"

  1. cafne seltau. x1 cafne cadzu = x1 cadzu i ju'a nai le nu go'i cu cafne, x1 often walks
  2. cerni/vanci seltau. x1 cerni sanmi, x1 is a breakfast
  3. zekri seltau. x1 zekri lebna, x1 steals

others

  1. heavily disputable: simxu seltau. x1 simxu broda x2 expands into x1 ce x2 simxu le ka ce'u ce'u broda, x1 and x2 reciprocally broda

Some nice examples of lo'e turtau

  • le te gerna stura = grammatical structure
  • le se smuni stura = semantic structure

Other links

References