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Proposal:  
 
Proposal:  
{{notci|'''le broda''' searches for the last sumti starting from x1 of '''dei''' and going back to '''di'u''' and earlier. When a sumti is found such that '''SUMTI ka'e broda''' then it automatically refers to that SUMTI.}}
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{{notci|'''le broda''' searches for the last sumti starting from x1 of '''dei''' and going back to '''di'u''' and earlier. When a sumti is found such that '''SUMTI ca'a broda''' then it automatically refers to that SUMTI.}}
 
This proposal is more in line with the actual usage of '''le'''.
 
This proposal is more in line with the actual usage of '''le'''.
  
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Examples:
 
Examples:
 
{{mu|la .alis. cu viska lo ninmu .e lo nakla i le fetsi cu melbi}}
 
{{mu|la .alis. cu viska lo ninmu .e lo nakla i le fetsi cu melbi}}
Here '''le fetsi''' refers to '''lo ninmu''' since it was the last sumti such that '''lo ninmu ka'e fetsi'''
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Here '''le fetsi''' refers to '''lo ninmu''' since it was the last sumti such that '''lo ninmu ca'a fetsi'''
  
 
{{mu|la .alis. cu viska lo nakla i le fetsi cu melbi}}
 
{{mu|la .alis. cu viska lo nakla i le fetsi cu melbi}}
Here '''le fetsi''' refers to '''la .alis.''' if the context (other parts of text) show that '''la .alis. ka'e fetsi'''
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Here '''le fetsi''' refers to '''la .alis.''' if the context (other parts of text) show that '''la .alis. ca'a fetsi'''
  
 
Note that '''le''' works not only anaphorically but also cataphorically since "starting from x1 of '''dei'''" part.
 
Note that '''le''' works not only anaphorically but also cataphorically since "starting from x1 of '''dei'''" part.

Revision as of 08:42, 1 October 2014

Initially proposed by la gleki:

Proposal:

le broda searches for the last sumti starting from x1 of dei and going back to di'u and earlier. When a sumti is found such that SUMTI ca'a broda then it automatically refers to that SUMTI.


This proposal is more in line with the actual usage of le.

It relies purely on discourse which is easy to track and parse.

Examples:

la .alis. cu viska lo ninmu .e lo nakla i le fetsi cu melbi

Here le fetsi refers to lo ninmu since it was the last sumti such that lo ninmu ca'a fetsi

la .alis. cu viska lo nakla i le fetsi cu melbi

Here le fetsi refers to la .alis. if the context (other parts of text) show that la .alis. ca'a fetsi

Note that le works not only anaphorically but also cataphorically since "starting from x1 of dei" part.

Exophorics is not yet thought out yet.

Similar constructs

  • bi'unai deals with already given information but doesn't count sumti back
  • ri does count sumti back but not semantically.
  • di'u doesn't deal with sumti