Talk:reduced logical form
So, I see that you are obviously building a kernel language for Lojban, presumably one containing only the logical bits.
What I'm missing is why.
-Robin
> So, I see that you are obviously building a kernel language for Lojban, > presumably one containing only the logical bits. > > What I'm missing is why.
Does there always have to be a why? 
I started doing it because of the eternal discussion about NA and its scope. I think using the reduced logical form we can more clearly see what the alternatives are.
But besides that, I think it is a useful thing to show that the logical language truly does match up with ordinary first order logic to a great extent, and it is also useful to know exactly where it does not.
I was pleasantly surprized by how easy it turned out to be doing the reduction, mostly. I have completely ignored indicators and free modifiers. So for example the algorithm won't produce a reduced form for {doi ro da poi me ko da cuxna pa karda}. I guess it should have to reduce to something like: {e'o ro da poi me do zo'u pa de poi karda zo'u cuxna fa da de}
Anyway, leaving indicators aside, I found two points where I could not do the reduction: mixed connective+tag, and VUhO relative-clauses.
I also still have to do sumti non-logical connectives, but I think those won't be a problem.
(And there are some issues I haven't considered yet, like {bu'a}, {no'a}, and the like, which may or may not need special treatment.)
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> I started doing it because of the eternal discussion about NA and > its scope. I think using the reduced logical form we can more > clearly see what the alternatives are.
Coolness.
> But besides that, I think it is a useful thing to show that the > logical language truly does match up with ordinary first order > logic to a great extent, and it is also useful to know exactly > where it does not.
You mean second order, don't you?
> I was pleasantly surprized by how easy it turned out to be doing > the reduction, mostly. I have completely ignored indicators and > free modifiers.
As you should.
Good luck.
-Robin
Re: Reduced logical form So, I see that you are obviously building a kernel language for Lojban, presumably one containing only the logical bits.
What I'm missing is why.
-Robin