https://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Talk:lojbo_prenu&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:lojbo prenu - Revision history2024-03-29T00:07:45ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.38.4https://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Talk:lojbo_prenu&diff=108869&oldid=prevGleki: Created page with "* .i .ui mi nelci cuxna zoi my. long tanru .my. ** Me too, but there are certain lujvo that have gained enough of a meaning that they are recommended in daily u..."2014-09-26T08:22:47Z<p>Created page with "* .i .ui mi nelci cuxna zoi my. <a href="/papri/long_tanru" title="long tanru">long tanru</a> .my. ** Me too, but there are certain lujvo that have gained enough of a meaning that they are recommended in daily u..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>* .i .ui mi nelci cuxna zoi my. [[long tanru|long tanru]] .my.<br />
** Me too, but there are certain lujvo that have gained enough of a meaning that they are recommended in daily use. I do not even know what ''kai'' is a rafsi for, though I use the words javnakai and tavlakai. You won't find anyone saying ''bridi valsi'' or ''se cmavo'' - only brivla and selma'o.<br />
***''javnakai'' is a type-4 fu'ivla. ''ta vlakai'' means "that has wordness".<br />
**** I did not invent these lujvo, and they are both bad. javnakai should be javnikai, and tavlakai falis the [[tosmabru test|tosmabru test]]. But they are used. Uh-oh.<br />
**** Sorry, just rechecked where they first popped up. All that over nothing: It's javnykai and tavlykai.<br />
*** ''kai'' is a [[rafsi|rafsi]] for ''ckaji'', which means ''to have a property'', since everything which has a given property has that property, ''-kai'' doesn't change the meaning. (''mi na tugni di'u'' Well, what's the difference then?) Use something like ''-smi'', ''-(sel)te'i'', or ''-cfu''.<br />
* ma ckajykai</div>Gleki