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Posted by arj on Mon 27 of June, 2005 14:54 GMT posts: 953

Typo or charset conversion issue:

"Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norbäck".

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rlpowellPosted by rlpowell on Tue 09 of Aug., 2005 00:57 GMT posts: 14214

On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:54:22AM -0700, [email protected] wrote: > Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book Typo or charset conversion issue: > > "Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norb??ck".

As you can see, that doesn't help me much. Can you fix it directly?

-Robin

-- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

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arjPosted by arj on Tue 09 of Aug., 2005 01:01 GMT posts: 953

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:54:22AM -0700, [email protected] > wrote: >> Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book Typo or charset conversion issue: >> >> "Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norb??ck". > > As you can see, that doesn't help me much. Can you fix it directly?

Sure, but you have to unlock it first.

-- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Confusion among -ate ~ -ant pairs is even more prominate, since both are legitimant suffixes. --Adam Albright

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rlpowellPosted by rlpowell on Tue 09 of Aug., 2005 01:02 GMT posts: 14214

On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 08:48:00PM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:54:22AM -0700, [email protected] > >wrote: > >>Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book Typo or charset conversion issue: > >> > >>"Martin Norbck" should be "Martin Norb??ck". > > > >As you can see, that doesn't help me much. Can you fix it > >directly? > > Sure, but you have to unlock it first.

Screw that; gave you break lock perms instead. :-)

-Robin

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Posted by LogicalDash on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:00 GMT posts: 6
I'm reading through the PDF version of the book that I've printed out. It has a heading for fu'ivla, then a page or so later switches to calling them le'avla. A quick search of the wiki revealed that le'avla is apparently the newer and more preferred term, and should therefore be the only one used to describe loanwords in the pamphlet. I'd fix this myself, but for my lack of Acrobat; would someone who's properly equipped please do a find-and-replace, and re-upload?
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Posted by JohnCowan on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:10 GMT posts: 149

LogicalDash scripsit: > fu'ivla? > I'm reading through the PDF version of the book that I've printed > out. It has a heading for fu'ivla, then a page or so later switches to > calling them le'avla. A quick search of the wiki revealed that le'avla > is apparently the newer and more preferred term, and should therefore > be the only one used to describe loanwords in the pamphlet. I'd fix > this myself, but for my lack of Acrobat; would someone who's properly > equipped please do a find-and-replace, and re-upload?

Vice versa. Le'avla is the older and dispreferred term.

-- It was dreary and wearisome. Cold clammy winter still held way in this forsaken country. The only green was the scum of livid weed on the dark greasy surfaces of the sullen waters. Dead grasses and rotting reeds loomed up in the mists like ragged shadows of long-forgotten summers. --"The Passage of the Marshes" http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

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Posted by LogicalDash on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:24 GMT posts: 6

> Vice versa. Le'avla is the older and dispreferred term.

Uhh... yeah, I read this wrong. Thanks.

Anyway, could someone please fix it, or else direct me to some free software that will allow me to do it myself?

> > — > It was dreary and wearisome. Cold clammy winter still held way in this > forsaken country. The only green was the scum of livid weed on the dark > greasy surfaces of the sullen waters. Dead grasses and rotting reeds loomed > up in the mists like ragged shadows of long-forgotten summers. > --"The Passage of the Marshes" http://www.ccil.org/~cowan > > >

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rlpowellPosted by rlpowell on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:40 GMT posts: 14214

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 03:24:30PM -0700, LogicalDash wrote: > Re: What Is Lojban?, The Book > > Vice versa. Le'avla is the older and dispreferred term. > > Uhh... yeah, I read this wrong. Thanks. > > Anyway, could someone please fix it, or else direct me to some > free software that will allow me to do it myself?

The source is here:

http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/

Good luck; I asked him not to use DocBook. :-(

-Robin

-- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

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Posted by LogicalDash on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:46 GMT posts: 6

> The source is here: > > http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/ > > Good luck; I asked him not to use DocBook. :-( > > -Robin

That page seemed to contain the source for the Lojban for Beginners lessons, but not for the What is Lojban? pamphlet.

Why does the board keep removing line breaks in quoted text?

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Posted by LogicalDash on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:52 GMT posts: 6
Never mind, I found the source15px|(external link).
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rlpowellPosted by rlpowell on Fri 21 of July, 2006 22:55 GMT posts: 14214

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 03:52:12PM -0700, LogicalDash wrote: > Never mind, I found > the source15px|(external link).

Or http://lojban.org/publications/level0/lojban.level0.zip at the bottom of the page.

-Robin

-- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

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Posted by LogicalDash on Sat 22 of July, 2006 18:23 GMT posts: 6

Turns out that what I had was the PDF of just the grammar section of the book, made available on the Lojban for Beginnerspage. The problems with that pamphlet could be easily fixed by instead printing out the grammar section from the whole thing.

Nevermind.