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* That is the question I am asking the community in general. Certainly we can ca'emsku that the imperative/irrealis moods scope over the entire sentence, but that comes at the cost of expressiveness; one would then have to resort to circumlocutions to say something like "the one who you should see".
* That is the question I am asking the community in general. Certainly we can ca'emsku that the imperative/irrealis moods scope over the entire sentence, but that comes at the cost of expressiveness; one would then have to resort to circumlocutions to say something like "the one who you should see".
** not necessarily. just mark necessary parts with {{vlapoi|da'i|nai}} [[User:Gleki|mu'o mi'e La Gleki]] ([[User talk:Gleki|talk]]) 04:51, 21 August 2015 (PDT)
** not necessarily. just mark necessary parts with {{vlapoi|da'i|nai}} [[User:Gleki|mu'o mi'e La Gleki]] ([[User talk:Gleki|talk]]) 04:51, 21 August 2015 (PDT)
*** not sure what you mean here; I think it's much ''less'' convenient to mark the *main* bridi with '''da'inai''' in order to mark the sub-bridi with the correct irrealis moods. Example: "I see a person who you should love" = '''mi viska lo prenu poi ei do prami''' / '''mi viska lo prenu poi e'i do prami''' (difference between '''ei''' and '''e'i''' here is hard to express in English); if '''ei''' and '''e'i''' here scopes over the entire sentence, how would you mark the parts you *don't* want to affect with '''da'inai''' cleanly?
*** not sure what you mean here; I think it's much ''less'' convenient to mark the *main* bridi with '''da'inai''' in order to mark the sub-bridi with the correct irrealis moods. Example: "I see a person who you should love" = '''mi viska lo prenu poi ei do prami''' / '''mi viska lo prenu poi e'i do prami''' (difference between '''ei''' and '''e'i''' here is hard to express in English); if '''ei''' and '''e'i''' here scopes over the entire sentence, how would you mark the parts you *don't* want to affect with '''da'inai''' cleanly? [[User:Spheniscine|Spheniscine]] ([[User talk:Spheniscine|talk]]) 04:57, 21 August 2015 (PDT)

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I dont understand what is all meant here. What is wanted from au/e'o/e'u series in general? Aren't they applied to the whole sentence? mu'o mi'e La Gleki (talk) 01:55, 21 August 2015 (PDT)

  • That is the question I am asking the community in general. Certainly we can ca'emsku that the imperative/irrealis moods scope over the entire sentence, but that comes at the cost of expressiveness; one would then have to resort to circumlocutions to say something like "the one who you should see".
    • not necessarily. just mark necessary parts with da'i nai mu'o mi'e La Gleki (talk) 04:51, 21 August 2015 (PDT)
      • not sure what you mean here; I think it's much less convenient to mark the *main* bridi with da'inai in order to mark the sub-bridi with the correct irrealis moods. Example: "I see a person who you should love" = mi viska lo prenu poi ei do prami / mi viska lo prenu poi e'i do prami (difference between ei and e'i here is hard to express in English); if ei and e'i here scopes over the entire sentence, how would you mark the parts you *don't* want to affect with da'inai cleanly? Spheniscine (talk) 04:57, 21 August 2015 (PDT)