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An argument sometimes applied to Lojban semantics by [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]], which goes something like this:


i ko jmina le cmene e lei tcila va'o le nu do se cinri le nu penmi loi drata jbopli vi le se xabju be do
{{quotation|X (a Lojban construct) <u>could</u> in principle mean any of Y or Z. But if you use X to mean Y, you'd be an ass. The listener should assume that you are not being an ass, and that you really mean Z.}}


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Arguably, this is a rediscovery of Grice's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle cooperative principle].
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* [[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]] (aka '''clsn''', '''.mark.''') is in New Jersey, so '''should''' see more of [[User:xod|xod]] and [[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]]... but doesn't.
* [[jbocre: Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] (rizen/bancus) is in Ontario, Southern California.
* [[jbocre: pc|pc]] is around St. Louis, MO
* [[jbocre: djin|djin]].meiz. lives in Tidewater/Hampton Roads, VA. [mailto:[email protected]]
* [[jbocre: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] is in Northern California, in the Silicon Valley area.
* [[jbocre: Xavier|xavier]] schools in Rochester, NY, but is from Newton, MA.
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* Mike Fairhurst is looking for lojbanists around Portland, Oregon (email [email protected] or facebook me)
* Twitch is learning lojban in Montpelier, Vermont, and would love to work with others. sirrustemplar(put an 'at' symbol here)madriver(period)com.
* cizyprijev can be contacted at [email protected] or https://twitter.com/#!/cizyprijev
 
==lo sralygu'e ''(Australia)''==
*[[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
 
==lo brogu'e ''(Israel)''==
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*Alex (Sasha) Gontmakher, [email protected]
 
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*[[User:.jexOm.|jexOm.]]
*[[User:Ilmen|la .ilmen.]]
 
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*[[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambías]], [mailto:[email protected] [email protected]]
 
==lo kadnygu'e ''(Canada)''==
*[[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]] .i mi zvati le lulus. zei daplu
*[[User:Tsani|la tsani]] lives in Montreal
 
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*[[User:Gleki|la gleki]]
*[[jbocre: Russian Lojban community|Russian Lojban community]]
*[[User:Cyril Slobin|Cyril Slobin]], Moscow
*[[jbocre: ilya nikokoshev|ilya nikokoshev]], Moscow
*[[jbocre: Evgenii Sklyanin|Evgenii Sklyanin]], St. Petersburg, now in York (UK)
*[mailto:[email protected] Yanis Batura], Novosibirsk
 
==lo dotygu'e ''(Germany/Deutschland'')==
*A. W. Tüting ([[jbocre: .aulun.|.aulun.]]), [mailto:[email protected] [email protected]]
*Björn Gohla, [email protected]
*[[jbocre: Philip Newton|Philip Newton]], Hamburg; [mailto:[email protected]]
*Jens Gutzeit ([[jbocre: .iens.|.iens.]]), Berlin, [mailto:[email protected]]
*[[User:Iesk|.iesk.]], berti dotygu'e; [mailto:[email protected] [email protected]]
*[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]] cu xabju la berlin
 
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*[[jbocre: And Rosta|And Rosta]], London &amp; Preston. (No point meeting me if you want to practice Lojban conversation! I have never really got round to learning such conversationally vital stuff as gismu, BAI, tense, UI... That doesn't mean I'm not willing to try a bit, tho.)
*[[jbocre: Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]
*[[jbocre: Evgenii Sklyanin|Evgenii Sklyanin]], York, [email protected]
 
==lo gugdrxelveto ''(Switzerland)''==
*Gregory Dyke [[jbocre: .greg.|greg.]], Gryon, [email protected]
 
==lo gugdrsuomi ''(Finland)''==
* Veijo Vilva (veion), Porvoo/Borgå, [email protected]
 
==lo gugrsferie ''(Sweden)''==
* Martin Norbäck, G?org, norpan on irc (lojban beginner), [email protected]
* [[jbocre: ShaeErisson|ShaeErisson]], Boden, [email protected]
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* [[jbocre: aionys|aionys]] aka eyeonus
 
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Please add and/or correct links.
* [[jbocre: .alyn.post.|.alyn.post.]]
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* [[jbocre: Athelstan|Athelstan]]
* [[jbocre: .aulun.|.aulun.]]
* [[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
* [[jbocre: Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]
* [[User:Cyril Slobin|Cyril Slobin]]
* [[jbocre: Evgeny Sklyanin|Evgeny Sklyanin]] = [[jbocre: evgenis|evgenis]]
* [[jbocre: Goran Topic|Goran Topic]]
* [[jbocre: .greg.|greg.]]
* [[jbocre: Iain Alexander|Iain Alexander]]
* [[jbocre: .iens.|.iens.]]
* [[jbocre: ilya nikokoshev|ilya]]
* [[jbocre: .iusris.|.iusris.]]
* [[jbocre: Ivan Derzhanski|Ivan Derzhanski]]
* [[jbocre: James Cooke Brown|Dr. James Cooke Brown]]
* [[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
* [[jbocre: jemna|John Leuner]]
* [[jbocre: jexOm|.jexOm.]] = JérômeDesquilbet
* [[jbocre: jezrax|jezrax]]
* [[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] = [[jbocre: pc|pc]]
* [[jbocre: Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]] = [[jbocre: JordanDeLong|JordanDeLong]]
* [[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]] = Adam Cooper = adamgarrigus
* [[jbocre: .kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]
* [[User:.lidaniyl.|.lidaniyl.]]
* [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]
* [[jbocre: LordBrain|LordBrain]]
* [[jbocre: Michael Helsem|maiky'elsym]] = [[jbocre: graywyvern|graywyvern]]
* [[jbocre: marktillinghast|marktillinghast]]
* [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]] ([[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]])
*
* [[jbocre: pc|pc]] = [[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]]
* [[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
* [[jbocre: pne|pne]] goi la [[jbocre: pne|.filip.]]
* [[jbocre: Robin Turner|Robin Turner]]
* [[jbocre: selckiku|selckiku]] = Brett Douglas Williams = mungojelly
* [[User:skaryzgik|skaryzgik]] = Marjorie Scherf
* [[jbocre: tinkit|tinkit]]
* [[jbocre: Timo Paulssen|Timo Paulssen]] = timonator
* [[User:tsali|tsali]]
* [[User:tsani|tsani]]
* [[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]] = viktor = nonong
* [[User:xod|xod]] = [[jbocre: InventYourself|InventYourself]]
* [[User:xorxes|xorxes]] = [[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambías]]

Latest revision as of 16:36, 9 May 2017

An argument sometimes applied to Lojban semantics by Robin Lee Powell, which goes something like this:

X (a Lojban construct) could in principle mean any of Y or Z. But if you use X to mean Y, you'd be an ass. The listener should assume that you are not being an ass, and that you really mean Z.

Arguably, this is a rediscovery of Grice's cooperative principle.