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* [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]:
* [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]:
** Thanks, Jay! :-) But I do think there is a legitimate distinction to be drawn between the sundry waves of Lojbanists, particularly in terms of social dynamics.
** Thanks, Jay! :-) But I do think there is a legitimate distinction to be drawn between the sundry waves of Lojbanists, particularly in terms of social dynamics.
==Old Growth==
Loglanists. [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]], [[Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]], [[User:Jeff Prothero|Jeff Prothero]], [[pc|pc]], [[Colin Fine|Colin Fine]], [[User:Jim Carter|Jim Carter]]
==Sci-Fi==
Late '80s, recruited through Sci-fi cons. [[Athelstan|Athelstan]], [http://keithlynch.net/ Keith Lynch]
==Conlangers==
Early '90s, recruited through constructed language afficionadodom. Substantial overlap with 'Jimbobs' (see [[Jimbob mythos|Jimbob mythos]]). [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]], [[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]], [[Ivan Derzhanski|Ivan Derzhanski]], [[And Rosta|And Rosta]], [[John Cowan|John Cowan]], [[Michael Helsem|Michael Helsem]] (see below)
*[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta:]]:
*:Michael's different, because he became a Lojbanist earlier but joined the list later; thus for some years one did not know him but knew of him, as Lojban's foremost poet but living in offnet obscurity.
==Geeks==
Always present, but somewhat more prominent in the late '90s? Recruited through computer science interest (though not necessarily primarily so). [[John Cowan|John Cowan]], [[User:xod|la xod]], [[User:.aionys.|Eye/Onus]], [[User:skorgu|Skorgu]].
*Others reticent to call themselves that in public. Others not so reticent? :-)
==New Growth==
Substantial overlap with Geeks? Mebbe, mebbe not.
=Discussion=
*Pigeon-holes are silly, but there are certain clusterings which may explain certain attitudes and positions. There are lots of Lojbanists which I have no idea where they fit. [[John Cowan|John Cowan]], for instance '''(resolved)''', or [[Goran Topic|Goran Topic]]. Not to mention any of the New Growth Lojbanists...
*xod:
*:Sounds like too many classes. I notice only two groups: the revolutionaries and the new schoolers. Very loosely, the revolutionaries are the Loglaners that split and created Lojban, and the new school are gen-x geeks that came in after the language was solidified. do'acai
*[[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]:
*:There are [['Tweeners|'tweeners]] that took part in the solidification ('91-'97); I suspect [[User:xorxes|xorxes]] and I the only one still around to any extent, though...
**xorxes:
**:ki'e doi nitcion, I was starting to feel left out, as I didn't fit in any of the categories. What about [[Michael Helsem|la maikl]] and la and. mi'e xorxes, proud 'tweener and solidifier.
**[[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]:
**:la maikl. I think is ''sui generis'' :-) (I was wondering this myself.) And probably is more of a 'tweener than anything else ('''confirmed'''). Perhaps he's the 'tweener equivalent of [[pc|pc]]? :-)
***[[Michael Helsem|la maikl]]:
***:M.H. joined around 1989 after reading a review of '''ju'i lobypli''' in "Factsheet Five". Inactive during much of the Nineties. Except for the timeframe, the "conlanger" category seems to fit.
***michael seems like a nice guy, though. ''Yup, that's what I meant by ''sui generis''! '' so whats with the comparison to [[pc|pc]], then?
****Cause neither can be understood?'' Oh, Lordy. This is not the first time this has happened. In "[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] probably is more of a 'tweener than anything else", And = [[And Rosta|And Rosta]]! And I'm comparing And to pc because of their formal bias, though of course And is more formal than pc...
*****pc:
*****:Gee, I think I resent that. I also like to think of myself as the memory and conscience of the group, hewing closely to the original ideas (ideals?) of Loglan and mentioning when things go too far astray (in my opinion, of course).
*This word '''growth''' makes me think you're discussing forests. Campaign to save the old growth Lojbanists from the timber industry.
*[[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]:
*:Yeah. I kinda like that. :-)

Latest revision as of 08:17, 26 September 2014

A class of Lojbanists arbitrarily defined by Nick Nicholas as "anyone who joined Lojban after he left it for his PhD". (i.e. 1994)

  • nitcion:
    • Thanks, Jay! :-) But I do think there is a legitimate distinction to be drawn between the sundry waves of Lojbanists, particularly in terms of social dynamics.
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