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== Lojbanistani Culture ==
== Lojbanistani Culture ==


The culture of [[jbocre: Lojbanistan|Lojbanistan]].
The culture of [[Lojbanistan|Lojbanistan]].


In [[jbocre: Lojban Description|Lojban Description]]: lojbo kulnu or jboklu
In [[Lojban]]: lojbo kulnu or jboklu


* um.  "lojbo" is a culture word.  "lojbo kulnu" is redundant.  -jrd
* um.  "lojbo" is a culture word.  "lojbo kulnu" is redundant.  -jrd
** It's also a language/nationality/community word. IMO '''lojbo kulnu''' picks out one of those meanings and is clearer/more specific than '''lojbo''' alone. Or how about '''lojbo le ka ce'u kulnu''', in the spirit of [[jbocre: Simple phrases|the phrasebook]]? Or '''kulnu (be) loi lojbo'''? -pne
** It's also a language/nationality/community word. IMO '''lojbo kulnu''' picks out one of those meanings and is clearer/more specific than '''lojbo''' alone. Or how about '''lojbo le ka ce'u kulnu''', in the spirit of [[Simple phrases|the phrasebook]]? Or '''kulnu (be) loi lojbo'''? -pne


xu ti poi ke'a papri ku'o cu sa'u -- Hope this means what I want it to mean. ;)
xu ti poi ke'a papri ku'o cu sa'u -- Hope this means what I want it to mean. ;)
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Examples can be found in the many [[jbocre: Lojban literary forms|Lojban Poems]], the [[jbocre: Lojban Description|Lojban Description]] translations of the Bible and Alice in Wonderland, '''[[jbocre: jbozgiMusic|jbozgi]]''' music, the [[jbocre: TeaCeremony|Lojban Tea Ceremony]], and several other cultural items of lojbanistan.
Examples can be found in the many [[Lojban literary forms|Lojban Poems]], the [[Lojban]] translations of the Bible and Alice in Wonderland, '''[[jbozgiMusic|jbozgi]]''' music, the [[TeaCeremony|Lojban Tea Ceremony]], and several other cultural items of lojbanistan.


The color combination orange & silver ('''narju joi rijnyska''') are sometimes thought of as '''[[lobykai|lobykai]]''' (or at least, they were prominent in [[jbocre: ziryroi|ziryroi]]), but seldom used symbolically as such.
The color combination orange & silver ('''narju joi rijnyska''') are sometimes thought of as '''[[lobykai|lobykai]]''' (or at least, they were prominent in [[ziryroi|ziryroi]]), but seldom used symbolically as such.


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'''.i lo jbojbe ba jdice''' (The Lojban-born will decide.)
'''.i lo jbojbe ba jdice''' (The Lojban-born will decide.)


->[[jbocre: Native speakers|Native speakers]]
->[[Native speakers|Native speakers]]


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==== Emblems ====
==== Emblems ====


* The [[jbocre: Lojban Logo|Lojban Logo]]
* The [[Lojban Logo|Lojban Logo]]
* [[jbocre: Lojban Anthem|Lojban Anthem]]
* [[Lojban Anthem|Lojban Anthem]]


==== Mythos ====
==== Mythos ====


* [[jbocre: LojbanicMythology|Lojbanic Mythology]]
* [[LojbanicMythology|Lojbanic Mythology]]
* [[jbotut|Lojban map]]
* [[jbotut|Lojban map]]


==== Expression ====
==== Expression ====


* [[jbocre: Lojban Style|Lojban Style]]
* [[Lojban Style|Lojban Style]]
* [[jbocre: LojbanSlang|LojbanSlang]]
* [[LojbanSlang|LojbanSlang]]


* [[jbocre: LojbanAphorisms|LojbanAphorisms]]
* [[LojbanAphorisms|LojbanAphorisms]]
* [[jbocre: Lojban literary forms|Lojban literary forms]]
* [[Lojban literary forms|Lojban literary forms]]


* [[jbocre: Saying nothing|Saying nothing]], verbosely
* [[Saying nothing|Saying nothing]], verbosely


==== Daily Living ====
==== Daily Living ====


* [[terjukpa|Recipes]]
* [[terjukpa|Recipes]]
* [[jbocre: MMORPG|MMORPG]]--Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
* [[MMORPG|MMORPG]]--Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game


==== External Relations ====
==== External Relations ====
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* [[Lojban and Klingon|Lojban and Klingon]]
* [[Lojban and Klingon|Lojban and Klingon]]


* [[jbocre: The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism]]
* [[The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism]]
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One value is very strong in modern Lojbanistan: respect for the '''[[baseline|baseline]]'''.
One value is very strong in modern Lojbanistan: respect for the '''[[baseline|baseline]]'''.

Latest revision as of 09:23, 2 October 2014

Lojbanistani Culture

The culture of Lojbanistan.

In Lojban: lojbo kulnu or jboklu

  • um. "lojbo" is a culture word. "lojbo kulnu" is redundant. -jrd
    • It's also a language/nationality/community word. IMO lojbo kulnu picks out one of those meanings and is clearer/more specific than lojbo alone. Or how about lojbo le ka ce'u kulnu, in the spirit of the phrasebook? Or kulnu (be) loi lojbo? -pne

xu ti poi ke'a papri ku'o cu sa'u -- Hope this means what I want it to mean. ;)

sa'u is not a selbri, so we don't understand you. Maybe you meant sampu.

  • The afore-illustrated exchange is of course, one of the characteristics of Lojbanistani Culture (but arguably also of any conlang): people correct each others' grammar. :-)

Examples can be found in the many Lojban Poems, the Lojban translations of the Bible and Alice in Wonderland, jbozgi music, the Lojban Tea Ceremony, and several other cultural items of lojbanistan.

The color combination orange & silver (narju joi rijnyska) are sometimes thought of as lobykai (or at least, they were prominent in ziryroi), but seldom used symbolically as such.


.i lo jbojbe ba jdice (The Lojban-born will decide.)

->Native speakers


Emblems

Mythos

Expression

Daily Living

External Relations


One value is very strong in modern Lojbanistan: respect for the baseline.

  • Note that respect for the baseline is like respect for the law: one respects it without necessarily agreeing with it.
    • Or even necessarily obeying it...
      • Sounds like some people have a broken idea of what 'respect' means.
        • xorxes:
          I respect my parents, I don't always obey them. In fact, they don't give orders now, but they do make suggestions. Sometimes I follow their suggestions, sometimes I don't. Sometimes their ideas are too old-fashioned or impractical for me, so I do things they wouldn't approve of, but I still respect them. As a child I didn't always obey them either, sometimes even when I should have, but I still respected them. The baseline is not like a god that demands unquestioning obedience, it is more like a parent or a teacher.