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Portuguese has some issues which may muck things up:
The Lojban Mini-Lesson: composed originally, I believe, by Athelstan.
#Sequences such as VnC and VmC cause the vowel to nasalize and the /m to disappear. Try, e.g. "baanndo" or "baanndu".
 
#Unstressed vowels tend to get raised. You may need to try things like "eh" and "oh" in those circumstances. Happily, unstressed "o" kinda sounds like Lojban u.
 
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Can be found on the web in [http://www.lojban.org/files/brochures/minilesson.txt ext form] and in [http://www.lojban.org/files/brochures/minilsn.h html] (the [http://www.lojban.org/files/brochures/miniexer.html xercises] for the HTML version are on a separate page).
' rr (ca<u>rr</u>o)
 
a á
The text promises a "commented [[jbocre: minilesson a|answer key]]"; however, this does not yet exist. I had a go at providing one; see the link. Suggestions and corrections are welcome. --mi'e [[jbocre: filip|filip]]
b b
c ch (<u>ch</u>orar)
d d
e ê
f f
g g (guia, garota)
i i
j j (joelho)
k k
l l
m m
n n
o ô
p p
r r
s s
t t
u u (undar)
v v
x rrr
y Cid<u>a</u>, sêc<u>a</u>, pec<u>a</u>, pac<u>a</u>, col<u>a</u>, Lol<u>a</u>, lut<u>a</u>, quas<u>e</u>, '''gy''' - ma<u>g</u>ma (brasileiro);<br/>noit<u>e</u>, tard<u>e</u>, p<u>e</u>cado, p<u>e</u>rgunta (português do Portugal);<br/>c<u>a</u>ma, m<u>a</u>ma, f<u>ã</u>, hortel<u>ã</u> (paulistano, sulista)
z z
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Latest revision as of 07:25, 19 February 2016

Portuguese has some issues which may muck things up:

  1. Sequences such as VnC and VmC cause the vowel to nasalize and the /m to disappear. Try, e.g. "baanndo" or "baanndu".
  2. Unstressed vowels tend to get raised. You may need to try things like "eh" and "oh" in those circumstances. Happily, unstressed "o" kinda sounds like Lojban u.

<tab class=wikitable> ' rr (carro) a á b b c ch (chorar) d d e ê f f g g (guia, garota) i i j j (joelho) k k l l m m n n o ô p p r r s s t t u u (undar) v v x rrr y Cida, sêca, peca, paca, cola, Lola, luta, quase, gy - magma (brasileiro);
noite, tarde, pecado, pergunta (português do Portugal);
cama, mama, fã, hortelã (paulistano, sulista) z z </tab>