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The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC Internet Relay Chat (aka IRC)] channel is a place for people to textually chat in real-time. It is recommended, but by no means required, that you learn what IRC is by briefly reading some of the [http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html IRC Frequently Asked Questions] or [http://irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html The IRC Prelude].
{{se inspekte/en}}The Internet Relay Chat (aka IRC)<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC</ref> channel is a place for people to textually chat in real-time.
== Connecting ==
==Connecting quickly==
The Lojban IRC channel is on the [http://freenode.net Freenode IRC network].
To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).
=== New to IRC? ===
 
If you don't have an IRC client, you can use [[Special:WebChat|a web interface]].
People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.
 
===Telegram===
[[Image:Telegram logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.
 
# Install the free [https://telegram.org Telegram messenger] on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
# join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF8mCAb6fzW1Rw lojban]</span> - talk in or about Lojban
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz4hC9ulWahupDLovA ckule]</span> - ask questions arising while your study of Lojban
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz20Boixl0xN-0TrPw jbosnu]</span> - talk in Lojban only
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/CJYorT2ma6UVfhb9YThEqw jboselbau]</span> - for any offtopic discussions :)
#*Or in Telegram search for "lojban" user (@lojban) or "solpahi" (@solpahi), send them your nickname (your id) and ask them to add you to the chats.
 
===Slack===
[[Image:Slack logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.
# Open <span class="plainlinks">https://slaka.herokuapp.com</span> Submit your email and get an invite to <span class="plainlinks">http://lojban.slack.com</span> to your e-mail inbox.
# Open <span class="plainlinks">http://lojban.slack.com</span>
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.
 
===Direct web access===
[[Image:IRC logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.
#Navigate to <span class="plainlinks">[{{Webchat url kiwi}} the web-based IRC client (Kiwi)]</span>, choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
#Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
#Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.
 
You may alternately try <span class="plainlinks">[{{Webchat url qwebirc}} another client (Qwebirc)]</span>.
 
=== Trickier ways of connecting ===
This is for geeks. If you have an IRC application installed use the following information:
*The Lojban IRC channel is on the [http://freenode.net Freenode IRC network]. Use '''irc.lojban.org''' or '''chat.freenode.net''' for the server, port '''6667''' (or 6679 for an SSL-encrypted connection). Registering with NickServ is recommended.
*The three channels are used:
** [irc://irc.freenode.net/lojban #lojban] for basic discussions in any language,
** [irc://irc.freenode.net/ckule #ckule] for questions from new learners in any language and
** [irc://irc.freenode.net/jbosnu #jbosnu] for discussions in Lojban only.
It is recommended, but by no means required, that you learn what IRC is by briefly reading some of the [http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html IRC Frequently Asked Questions] or [http://irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html The IRC Prelude].
 
You may also use [https://irssi.org/ irssi command line app] on your server to keep the whole log of chat activity.


Simply enter the captcha (text in skewed letters and numbers) and click "Connect". Easy!  Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the botoom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
=== Familiar with IRC? ===
Use '''irc.lojban.org''' or '''irc.freenode.net''' for the server, port '''6667'''. The channel is '''#lojban'''. Registering with NickServ is recommended.
== Conduct ==
== Conduct ==
There are almost always more than 70 people connected, but most of the time, they'll be idle. Say '''coi''', hit Enter and wait. Get a soda. Practice your vocabulary. But be patient. Dedicated IRC'ers don't sit in front of the computer 24/7 waiting to respond within 10 seconds of everything said. Think of it as sort of a fast moving message board.
There are almost always more than 100 people connected, but since they live in different timezones most of the time, they'll be idle. Say '''coi''', hit Enter and wait. Get a soda. Practice your vocabulary. But be patient. Dedicated IRC'ers don't sit in front of the computer 24/7 waiting to respond within 10 seconds of everything said. Think of it as sort of a fast moving message board.
 
You might also have a look at the [[IRC cheat sheet|IRC cheat sheet]], which contains a list of translations of frequently used expressions.
 
==[[IRC Bots]]==


You might also have a look at the [[jbocre: IRC cheat sheet|IRC cheat sheet]], which contains a list of translations of frequently used expressions.
== Rules ==
== Rules ==
Please speak in Lojban or about Lojban in #lojban and #ckule tabs. In #jbosnu tab talking only in Lojban is allowed.
Just behave and be respectful, don't intentionally try to annoy others. Don't worry though, usually you'll only annoy people if you're actively trying.
== Logs ==
There are [http://www.lojban.org/irclogs/ public logs of the utterances in Lojban of the IRC channel]<ref>Thanks to help from Theodore Reed and Jordan DeLong</ref>.


Just behave and be respectful, don't intentionally try to annoy others. You'll be warned if you're misbehaving, and if you continue you can be kicked from the channel or even banned. Don't worry though, usually you'll only annoy people if you're actively trying.
The logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojban text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem and the [[LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG]].
== Logs ==
 
There are now [http://www.lojban.org/irclogs/ public logs of the lojbanic utternaces of the IRC channel]<ref>Thanks to help from Theodore Reed and Jordan DeLong</ref>.
Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein. Nonetheless, the IRC logs currently constitute one of the largest corpora of Lojban text.
:The logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojban text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem and the [[jbocre: LLG|LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[jbocre: LLG|LLG]].
Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein.
== Discussion Topics ==
== Discussion Topics ==
A list of interesting discussion topics, about the nature of the language, is being actively maintained and [[jboske discussion|copied]] into this wiki. They often include specific terminology.The discussions are presented as is, copied from the IRC channel.
A list of interesting discussion topics, about the nature of the language, is being actively maintained and [[jboske discussion|copied]] into this wiki. They often include specific terminology. The discussions are presented as is, copied from the IRC channel.


==References==
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Revision as of 08:54, 21 August 2017

The Internet Relay Chat (aka IRC)[1] channel is a place for people to textually chat in real-time.

Connecting quickly

To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).

People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.

Telegram

Telegram logo.svg

Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.

  1. Install the free Telegram messenger on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
  2. join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
    • lojban - talk in or about Lojban
    • ckule - ask questions arising while your study of Lojban
    • jbosnu - talk in Lojban only
    • jboselbau - for any offtopic discussions :)
    • Or in Telegram search for "lojban" user (@lojban) or "solpahi" (@solpahi), send them your nickname (your id) and ask them to add you to the chats.

Slack

Slack logo.svg

Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.

  1. Open https://slaka.herokuapp.com Submit your email and get an invite to http://lojban.slack.com to your e-mail inbox.
  2. Open http://lojban.slack.com
  3. Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.

Direct web access

IRC logo.svg

Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.

  1. Navigate to the web-based IRC client (Kiwi), choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
  2. Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
  3. Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.

You may alternately try another client (Qwebirc).

Trickier ways of connecting

This is for geeks. If you have an IRC application installed use the following information:

  • The Lojban IRC channel is on the Freenode IRC network. Use irc.lojban.org or chat.freenode.net for the server, port 6667 (or 6679 for an SSL-encrypted connection). Registering with NickServ is recommended.
  • The three channels are used:
    • #lojban for basic discussions in any language,
    • #ckule for questions from new learners in any language and
    • #jbosnu for discussions in Lojban only.

It is recommended, but by no means required, that you learn what IRC is by briefly reading some of the IRC Frequently Asked Questions or The IRC Prelude.

You may also use irssi command line app on your server to keep the whole log of chat activity.

Conduct

There are almost always more than 100 people connected, but since they live in different timezones most of the time, they'll be idle. Say coi, hit Enter and wait. Get a soda. Practice your vocabulary. But be patient. Dedicated IRC'ers don't sit in front of the computer 24/7 waiting to respond within 10 seconds of everything said. Think of it as sort of a fast moving message board.

You might also have a look at the IRC cheat sheet, which contains a list of translations of frequently used expressions.

IRC Bots

Rules

Just behave and be respectful, don't intentionally try to annoy others. Don't worry though, usually you'll only annoy people if you're actively trying.

Logs

There are public logs of the utterances in Lojban of the IRC channel[2].

The logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojban text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem and the LLG explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the LLG.

Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein. Nonetheless, the IRC logs currently constitute one of the largest corpora of Lojban text.

Discussion Topics

A list of interesting discussion topics, about the nature of the language, is being actively maintained and copied into this wiki. They often include specific terminology. The discussions are presented as is, copied from the IRC channel.

References

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
  2. Thanks to help from Theodore Reed and Jordan DeLong