Loglan

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TLI Loglan - the original version of Loglan, which many of us feel to be inferior to Lojban, is still available. Go to http://www.loglan.org/.

There is also the Loglanists mailing list (archived only from 2013 on).

The Logical Language Group claims that the word Loglan is generic, and applies to Lojban as well. It was vindicated after a drawn-out legal process. Because the Loglan effort was coordinated by The Loglan Institute, one will also see the older variant of the language called Institute Loglan. TLI itself grants this point, and refers to the language it develops as TLI Loglan when the context requires a distinction from the sister languages.

See also

Lojban vs. Loglan. Comparison

For the Lojbanists interested in history: a grammatical comparison of Loglan vs. Lojban

  • terminology
  • Phonetics/Orthography
    • Vowels
      • diphthongs are ai, ei, oi, ao (= Lojban au)
      • optional diphthongs are iV, uV
      • all other vowel pairs are pronounced with glides
      • no equivalent of ', so no contrast like ai/a'i
    • Consonants
      • role of x is taken by h
      • Extra letters (used only in names, borrowings):
        • x, pronounced as in Lojban
        • q, IPA [T] = English unvoiced th
        • w, IPA [y] = German ü, French u
    • Capitalization follows the pattern standard for the European languages: used in the beginning of a sentence and for proper names. Nonstandard stress is marked by an apostrophe preceding the stressed syllable.
  • Morphology
    • basically the same at time of split
    • Loglan has added a new rule: in any lujvo beginning CVCC, where CC is a permissible initial, change to CVCyC. This eliminates the need for the slinku'i test (according to TLI). There are some other differences, notably in formation of borrowings.
  • Vocabulary
    • Gismu
    • Rafsi
      • don't necessarily have just one of CVC, CCV, or CVV forms, but maximum is still three
    • Fu'ivla
      • often use h-clusters to "solve" morphological problems (e.g. athomi = x1 is an atom)
    • Cmavo
      • show various "sound law" changes, e.g. Loglan gu = Lojban ku (but much more general "universal" terminator), Loglan no = Lojban na, Loglan noi = Lojban nai, Loglan keks = Lojban geks, Loglan ceks = Lojban jeks.
  • Grammar
    • masses/sets
    • abstraction
    • modals
    • tenses
    • relative clauses
    • Imperative
      • formed by omitting the x1 argument
    • mekso
    • attitudinals
    • negation
    • termsets
    • Vocatives: hoi instead of doi (as in "rano, hoi Spat. I prano.")
  • Usage/Style

Dictionaries

Here are the current trial drafts of the English-to-Loglan and Loglan-to-English dictionaries with latest trial words by Randall Holmes, the CEO of TLI, added.